Talk:Airspeed Envoy

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BetacommandBot 02:21, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Wartime

The second para of this section, about Luftwaffe use, has a 3 year old c/n. There is no mention of such use in Taylor's Airspeed Aircraft (Putnam, cited elsewhere in article) or in AJ Jackson's British Civil Aircraft book. Could still be true, but in the absence of a source is it not time for this para to be deleted? Might be the right moment, given the recent flurry of activity here. One more week?TSRL (talk) 21:18, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

The Luftwaffe use actually has a cite - see the Operators section - what doesn't have a cite is the use by Finland or Slovakia. If someone has the Air Britain book that is listed in the refs section for the Oxford (but not actually cited) then it may include such details.Nigel Ish (talk) 21:23, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I've added the cite to the text, left the c/n. Can someone check the AB book and either cite or delete?TSRL (talk) 22:29, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

This appears to be a reference to Finnish use - I'm not sure whether it fully counts as a WP:RS, but it may help.Nigel Ish (talk) 22:38, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Probably not WP:RS but better than nothing (?); the Walter engine says it was ex-CAS, so maybe all the Luftwaffe Envoys were ex-CAS? That seems to mesh with the Slovakia use, though I need to czech my history in the morning.TSRL (talk) 22:51, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

And there appears to be a reference in the Finnish Wikipedia page (although not a cite), while this has photos of an Envoy in Finnish markings, so I think that we can confirm Finland as a user.Nigel Ish (talk) 22:57, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

this (probably not an RS) has something for Slovak Air Force use, while this - which probaly is a RS as it appears to be produced by Air Britain has one to Slovakia in 1940, but possibly not operated by the Air Force.Nigel Ish (talk) 23:07, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

If the "AirBritain" list is citeable, then that seems to answer the call for a ref on the wartime para. Might need a tweak to ensure agrement. Likewise on the Japan section, though there is no mention of the LXM designation. AB looks thoroughly researched, with much overlap but more detail to the list in Taylor's book. Well found!TSRL (talk) 19:54, 12 August 2010 (UTC)