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You didn't understood on the Hadith the hadith 5134 says Ayisha`s nuptial was done at the age of 6 and married at the age of 9 " you misunderstood in the nuptial and marriage nuptial is the agreement for marriage not marriage check the hadith in sahi bukhari 5134 37.111.176.141 (talk) 01:29, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jamedeus (talk) 01:41, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Different between nuptial and marriage

Sahih Bukhari صحیح بخاری Hadith # 5134

Translation: Narrated Aisha (RA) : that the Prophet ﷺ married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that Aisha (RA) remained with the Prophet ﷺ for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart). Here the first marriage mean agreement for the marriage ( nuptial) at age of 6 which all non muslims considered this that Ayesha was at the age of 6 when the prophet marry her if you read the complete hadith it is cleared that the prophet met with her at the age of 9 and not 6 Basamshah (talk) 01:43, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

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Sahih Bukhari صحیح بخاری Hadith # 5134

Translation: Narrated Aisha (RA) : that the Prophet ﷺ married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that Aisha (RA) remained with the Prophet ﷺ for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart). Here is the complete hadith in this Hadith the first marriage doesn't mean that the prophet met ( intercourse) with Ayesha at the age of 6 this marriage mean the marriage agreement ( nuptials) at the end the Hadith clarifies that the prophet met ( intercourse ) wit Ayesha at the age of 9. Basamshah (talk) 01:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

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37.111.176.141 (talk) 02:08, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Ayesha married at age of 9 not 6 age 6 is the marriage agreement (nuptials)

Sahih Bukhari صحیح بخاری Hadith # 5134

Translation: Narrated Aisha (RA) : that the Prophet ﷺ married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that Aisha (RA) remained with the Prophet ﷺ for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart). The first marriage mean a marriage agreement ( nuptial) at the age of 6 years at the end the hadith clarifies that the prophet consummated (intercourse) with her at the age of 9 years. Basamshah (talk) 02:33, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a policy of no original research. All material in Wikipedia must be attributable to a reliable, published source. Articles must not contain any new analysis or synthesis of published material that reaches or implies a conclusion not clearly stated by the sources themselves. So you cannot use a source that says that he "married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old" to support a statement that he married her when she was nine.

• nuptial = wedding
• consummated his marriage = sex with with his wife for the first time after the wedding

Your theory implies that most/all English-language translations of Sahih Bukhari Hadith # 5134 are wrong. Wikipedia does not publish new ideas.-- Toddy1 (talk) 06:28, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Aysha rali history

Aysha rali history 103.247.51.74 (talk) 10:36, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

The Aisha Age Controversy

A lot has been said about Aisha's age when marrying the Prophet Muhammad, Whether she was 6, 9, or 16, when she was first betrothed and married. Prophet Michael, God's Disciple (talk) 01:23, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes. And your point is ...? Hopefully you can make a point that is relevant to Wikipedia's content policies and guidelines. ~Anachronist (talk) 02:53, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

My point is, it could make a interesting topic for a wikipedia page. Considering the fact that it's one of the most common criticisms of Muhammad. 2601:C5:100:11:3476:8E75:5EA0:2C3E (talk) 02:55, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Go right ahead, be WP:BOLD and go to WP:AFC, and follow the instructions to start working on a draft. If the topic of the "age controversy" is notable, there should be multiple reliable sources discussing it (not debating her age, but actually reporting on the controversy). ~Anachronist (talk) 03:33, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Real Age Range

This is fake. If you read Sunna you'll find this tradition Arabs had where they started counting their age after puberty(some examples would be like in the Seera where Ali was 10 approximately during hijra which is relatively impossible -because he was close to this age when Muhammad first got the revelation-, same goes for a sahabi that said he used to lead prayer when he was 7yo). Another point is the fact that Aisha was 10 years younger than her sister Asma who was 27 during hijra, making Aisha's age 17 at hijra and 18-19 the following year when she consummated the marriage. 77.205.21.218 (talk) 11:49, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Please can you provide references to reliable secondary sources that support what you say. Wikipedia is not interested in editors' interpretation of primary sources.-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC)