Talk:Aishwarya Rai Bachchan/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 06:54, 31 May 2011 (UTC) I am going to review this article. I'll start the review this evening or tomorrow morning.-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 06:54, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

I have nominated the article for a thorough copy-edit by the Guild of Copy-editors. Once they are done with, I will be beginning the review.-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 17:42, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

As the original reviewer at /GA1, I want to thank you for taking the time to properly source the article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:54, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I will be starting the copy edit today. Sorry for the delay; we have a backlog of articles right now. --Diannaa ^(Talk) 16:02, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Initial Comments

A quick glance at the article reveals that a lot needs to be done before the article could be rated GA.

• The lead lists her name only in Kannada/Tulu script. However, Aishwarya Rai was brought up in Mumbai and most of her films were in the Hindi language. Hence, it might be necessary to give her name in the Devanagari script also.

• One of the images in the infobox has been tagged for deletion. I suggest that the nominator look into the issue and sort it out.

Y Removed it --Commander _{(Ping Me)} 14:41, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

• According to the manual of style, the lead should completely summarize the article. However, most of the lead section speaks only about Aishwarya Rai's film career. There is practically nothing mentioned about her modelling assignments, social work or personal life.

Y Done --Commander _{(Ping Me)} 15:26, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

The lead is still not okay. I've copy-edited a bit but there is still work to be done. I'll return probably tomorrow or the day after.-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 17:58, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I observe that some of your friends have been simultaneously editing this article even as the review is going on. Now, reversion of edits made to the article as part of the GA-review process might clearly constitute edit warring. Hence, I insist that the concerned user initiate discussions in this review page before making such edits. Else, it might be considered a violation of rule 5 of the GAC and affect the article's chances of passing this review.-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 03:00, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

• The section "Early life" is extremely small. It could probably be expanded or merged with some other section in the article.

 Not done-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 03:33, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

• The section "Other work" could possibly be renamed as "Social work" or "Social causes".

Y Renamed it --Commander _{(Ping Me)} 14:41, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

• One-line paragraphs like these are to be avoided

Aishwarya is Hindu and deeply religious. Her favourite temple is a 200-year-old Lord Ganesha temple

Y Done --Commander _{(Ping Me)} 14:41, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

• Most of the stuff in "International media" could be moved to "Awards and Honours".

Y Done --Commander _{(Ping Me)} 14:41, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

 Not done. I had only suggested that the some of the stuff in "International media" be moved to "Awards and Honours". But I observe that the section "International Media" has been done away with-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 03:33, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

• I feel that a new section called "Modelling Career" could be created and the stuff in "Miss World" section could be moved there. Also more weightage should be given to Aish's modelling career; there should atleast be a list of products she has modelled for.

Y Done --Commander _{(Ping Me)} 14:41, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

• The nominator might care to check some of the sources used. The sites liveindia, angelfire, bollywoodhungama, boxofficemojo, newsofap, chitramala,businessofcinema, behindwoods, nowrunning and ibosnetwork don't appear reliable to me. I shall begin a detailed review once these issues are fixed. -The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 03:21, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Y Done --Commander _{(Ping Me)} 14:41, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Checking against GA criteria

• Well-written:

The lead does not, still, summarize the article. Nothing in the lead makes any reference to her early life

• Factually accurate and verifiable:

As far as I can observe, most of the claims are sourced from reliable sources.

• Broad in its coverage:

The section "Early Life" is yet to be expanded

• Neutral:

• Stable:

A look at the article's history reveals too many conflicts with other users. The talk page reveals that the there is a great deal of disagreement on what to be added and what not.

I was trying to help the nominator meet your demands. Unfortunately another editor disagreed with some of my additions. But then you, as the reviewer, made some additions to the lead that were simply not accurate or represented in the rest of the article, which led to more reverts. It seems harsh to fail the article on stability, when you caused some of the instability with your own edits. BollyJeff || talk 17:10, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

According to rule 1(e) of the Wikipedia:Featured article criteria,

it is not subject to ongoing edit wars and its content does not change significantly from day to day, except in response to the featured article process

I guess the same is applicable to good article reviews, too. I only edited the article as a part of the good article review process which I feel is perfectly permissible. However, I noticed that there were many who were making edits without any prior discussion in the GA-review.-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 04:35, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

• Images:

• Overall: I may have to fail this article now. I'd rather suggest that the nominator sort out his/her disputes with other editors before nominating it. This article has been changing drastically day-by-day that it may not be possible for me to pass this one. It may also be better to go for a peer review before nominating this article as there is still a lot of work to done in it. -The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 03:36, 21 June 2011 (UTC)