Talk:Akhenaten/GA2

GA Reassessment

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I am starting a good article reassessment of this article because it has not kept up with GA standards since it was promoted, and has numerous tags that show this. Specifically:

• First, tags:
  • References needed banner in the Religious policies section.
  • Eight citation needed tags in various sections
  • "Not in citation given" tag in Death, burial and succession section
  • Two dead link tags
• In addition to the tagged areas, there are numerous spots, including entire paragraphs, of unsourced material. Take, for example, the last two bullet points of the Family and relations section, which gives extensive conjecture with zero sources. Also the first paragraph of the Smenkhkare section, which again includes conjecture without sources.
• What makes ref #6, 47 (Kv64.info) a reliable source?
• What makes ref #14 (Anubis4_2000.tripod.com.) a reliable source?
• What makes ref #80 ( Megaera Lorenz) a reliable source?
• The In the arts section is a bullet-pointed list of trivia that gives the reader little to no indication as to why these mentions are notable or relevant. How does it help the reader to know that Akhenaten has been mentioned in various rock/metal songs? Is he associated with this culture in some way? Why can't all of the song mentions, if all they are is mentions, be summarized in a couple of sentences: "He has been mentioned in several rock songs, including x song by y band, q song by r band and m song by n band. [rinse, repeat for metal songs, or whatever]".

These are the major issues I see on a first run-through. I'm placing the review on hold to allow time for the above issues to be addressed. Please let me know if you have any questions, Dana boomer (talk) 17:04, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

• Just a brief comment. The 'In the arts section' is just trivia that people insert since Akhenaten is today a very famous person for being one of the monotheists of the world. It can be deleted but I suppose someone may insert them back in the future. The #80 ref by 'Megaera Lorenz' appears to be a general discussion of the symptoms of Marfan's syndrome. I don't know if its totally reliable but it doesn't seem out of place on this article and it does give general sources for its paper including Brittanica. Yes, there are entire paragraphs without sources. Perhaps someone else could verify the information or delete them if they're incorrect. When I wrote the 'International relations' paragraph of Akhenaten's paper years ago, I gave the sources, but today I lack the time sadly. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 20:21, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
• Two final comments: I think that ref #6 [1] is a minority view. Most Egyptologists believe that the mummy is Akhenaten given the level of damage that his funerary equipment suffered and his cartouches were all totally erased. The mummy mask was partly ripped out and its most likely that this royal ruler was Akhenaten and not the shortlived Smenkhkare. I agree that more references are needed in the Religious policies section but I cannot say anything about them. Akhenaten's "Death, burial and succession section" needs more sources but very little is known about the royal succession or the time of death of Akhenaten. Was Smenkare a coregent of Akhenaten for a while before he assumed the throne briefly after Akhenaten died? The archaeological record is unclear. Until December 2012, most people thought that Nefertiti short after Year 12 of Akhenaten's reign but now we know that she was still alive in Year 16 of his reign--about 1 year before he died. She may have outlived her husband. All that is certain is that Akhenaten was initially buried in his royal tomb at Amarna before his body was presumably moved to Thebes when a successor abandoned Amarna and Akhenaten's religious revolution to return to Thebes. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 20:38, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

As no changes have been made to the article in response to the above comments, I am now delisting it from GA status. Dana boomer (talk) 16:56, 4 November 2013 (UTC)