Talk:Aksumite–Persian wars
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Inconsistent with other Wikipedia entries
editAlthough I understand that the history of this time period is convoluted, it appears to me that this article is out of synch with related Wikipedia articles, contradicting them and possibly itself. I'm a historian, but not an expert on this subject, so I would prefer to see someone else clean up this problem. There should be greater consistency between this article and the articles on the Aksumite Kingdom and the history of Yemen, among others. The articles disagree on the role of the Byzantines in these events, whether the Persians finally backed the son of the former Axumite Christian leader or the son of the former local monarch who was Jewish. There also seem to be ties between these individuals and some key figures in the early spread of Islam a generation later, but this is also unclear from any of the articles. These articles are also short on historiographical discussions on sources, which characterize the best Wikipedia articles on ancient and medieval history. I see some suggestion that some of these individuals are semi-legendary, but if so, then an inclusion of the sources for these legends and the estimation of them as history should be included. If these sources are from early Islamic literature, then say that directly. If our understanding is imperfect because of contradictory or unreliable sources, then say that directly. It's certainly clear in many entries on European figures from this general time period, so why should Wikipedia be as direct when dealing with African-Asian topics? Ftjrwrites (talk) 01:38, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
Fake history
editWe do not know how long Wikipedia will become a reliable source. It is clear that the Persian-Exumian wars are a lie. All of them are words and falsifications from historians in the Abbasid era. There are many and clear lies, for example, Saif bin Dhi Yazan and Masruq. Characters that did not exist were invented by Ibn Hisham and Isaac in the first place after the alliance of Byzantium, Aksum and the Christian Himyarites against Dhu al-Nawas and his defeat appointed the Christians Samifa Ashwa, then Abraha killed him and became independent in power. The inscription itself was that his army was Arabs, that is, there was no occupation in the first place, so that historians claim that Saif asked for the help of the Persians in order to expel Axum, and Axum was not there in the first place in order to expel him Y000zygyy (talk) 18:49, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- Hard to take your criticism seriously when there is apparent of al-Abna' society existence after the rule of Abraha.
- Al-Abna' 139.193.50.17 (talk) 19:09, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Al-Abna' are an Arab tribe mentioned in the inscription of King Sha'ar Utar of Saba'i in the second century to help against his enemies. There are two tribes called Al-Abna' one in central Arabia and the second in the south of the Arabian Peninsula. Y000zygyy (talk) 01:56, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
Introductory paragraphs not grammatical
editI have no idea what they're saying either, probably needs a complete overhaul 737373elj (talk) 07:45, 3 May 2024 (UTC)