Talk:Al TV

Hey, I know that you can get #10 on Google video (should I link to that in the article), but are any of these for sale or downloadable or otherwise attainable? Falco1029 06:42, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Cobain Interview

Is it true that Al did a "interview" with Nirvana that is no longer around, or did not air due to Kurt Cobain's suicide? I read this in an AL'S PALS newsletter, but cannot find anything about it on google, yahoo!,ask jeeves, or any other internet search engine Can someone help me proove this, so I can inset it into the article?

ju pershendet besi dina nga italia jeni shum te mrekullushem e pershendes motren time ne kosov dhe mesen edhe nipin qe i dua shum me kengen e rezmies me nexhatin osmanaj ciao —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.75.11.254 (talk) 15:55, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

"Was", not "is"

Since there hasn't been a new Al-TV in several years, it's safe to say the show is in the past tense. RMc (talk) 02:51, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

No, I'm sorry to differ, but it isn't. That's not how tense works. "is" is existential, and they will always exist. We don't just decide by fiat that something isn't good enough for the present, that someone's work shall not continue (not that that's relevant in this case anyway), or that it doesn't exist. I'm sorry to have to undo your detailed contribution. Also, contents of fictional materials utilize an everpresent tense. It is only appropriate to utilize actually temporal verbs in the past tense, such as "this was aired on this date" or "this was made to be that way". Indeed, some phrases in some articles could be theoretically rewritten either way so that the tense may follow, and we can mix tenses in the same statement if it necessarily makes sense, but we cannot change what simply is. Thank you. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 12:13, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

I've seen several articles that use "was" for TV shows no longer on the air; are they all wrong, too? Don't be a jerk. RMc (talk) 14:08, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Obviously, yes, they are. As with general society, Wikipedia's definition of being a jerk is ignoring common sense logic, making personal attacks, and edit warring; and further offenses will be met with disciplinary action. Life's hard enough, brother, so let's have a good day.— Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 22:37, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Let's see...which one of us is making personal attacks and edit warring? That would be you, and you, respectively. And now you're making threats! Nice. You want to have a good day? Stop being a bully, and find another hobby. RMc (talk) 01:41, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm sure we can work this out. @RMc: is your only issue with Smuckola's edit with the change of tense? Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Television#Lead_paragraphs states "References to the show should be in the present tense since shows—even though no longer airing—still exist, including in the lead (e.g. Title is a...).", which would support Smuckola's change.

Both of you need to stop edit warring and come to a decision before continuing to revert—you've both managed to violate WP:3RR already. GorillaWarfare (talk) 05:02, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes. As I said, and as dear Gorilla has just further cited, I had worked it out. The decision in favor of logic and policy was made. Thanks. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 05:44, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Fine. (Are we going to change all the others, too? No? Just asking.) Schmuckola could have saved a lot of grief by simply citing the policy, rather than strutting around like some self-important little peacock. (But that's Wikipedia; it has a tendency to attract such people. Whatever.) RMc (talk) 10:02, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Glad we've settled the issue on this article. Let's all move on now; there's no need for this discussion to continue. GorillaWarfare (talk) 10:51, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

I did clearly cite policy, not that I had to, so obvious are the facts. Thank you for expanding with additional citations, Gorilla. And yes, as with everything else in Wikipedia, all the others are in progress of being corrected. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 01:48, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

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