Talk:Alakol, Azerbaijan

Requested move 6 March 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Withdrawn. To be considered individually (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 22:38, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

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• Alakol, Azerbaijan → Alakël
• Ampitiya, Central Province → Ampitiya
• Appledale, British Columbia → Appledale
• Babaxanlı, Jalilabad → Babaxanlı
• Cherrybrook, New South Wales → Cherrybrook
• Cooper, Monterey County, California → Cooper, California
• Evelio Otero Sr. → Evelio Otero
• Hoseynabad (35°20′ N 50°26′ E), Zarandieh → Hoseynabad, Zarandieh
• Jowzak, North Khorasan → Jowzak
• Kahuti, Kenya → Kahuti
• Las Lagunas, San Luis → Las Lagunas
• Mill Creek, Gloucester County, Virginia → Mill Creek, Virginia
• Muir, Willits, California → Muir, California
• Prather, Clark County, Indiana → Prather, Indiana
• River Ridge, Monroe County, Alabama → River Ridge, Alabama
• Sherwood Academy, Gedling → Sherwood Academy
• Sơn Thủy, Quảng Bình → Sơn Thủy
• Wildash, Queensland → Wildash

– As primary topics; current titles are occupied by dab pages whose only link are to the article I propose moving. If moved, the dab pages should be deleted as WP:G14. I don't expect this to be controversial, but I am opening an RM in case a naming convention that I am unaware of requires comma disambiguation for any of these articles so that such articles can be identified and excluded. BilledMammal (talk) 15:42, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Bunker Hill, Los Angeles, California is a redirect and shouldn't be included here. 162 etc. (talk) 16:45, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

I thought I found all of those; thank you, removed and the dab page redirected. BilledMammal (talk) 16:47, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Oppose Turner Landing, Illinois, per WP:USPLACE. 162 etc. (talk) 16:47, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Also removed and the dab page redirected. BilledMammal (talk) 16:48, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Another concern is the possible confusion of Lu Guan and Luguan. 162 etc. (talk) 16:55, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

I thought I had removed that one; I redirected Luguan to Luguan, Hunan because most of the articles in Template:Divisions_of_Xinhua_County use that format, although I don't know whether they should. I have removed it now and I think that any confusion can be addressed with a hatnote. BilledMammal (talk) 16:58, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

With all goodwill, this doesn't inspire confidence that proper checking on each article has been done. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:48, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 18:03, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Who can have checked each of these? Rajiv Gandhi Institute of Technology may refer to: Rajiv Gandhi Institute of Technology, Kottayam or Rajiv Gandhi Institute of Technology, Mumbai for example. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:43, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

I assumed the contents of the dab were correct; that there were not other titles that should be listed. BilledMammal (talk) 06:24, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

So why did you attempt to move on of the two institutes over the dab?

And now I see that the move has gone. Please close this RM. Check things more carefully and submit in smaller logically grouped RMs or individually. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:39, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

• WP:TRAINWRECK. I started inspecting the list from the bottom up, but gave up after six entries. Of these, only two, Wildash and Sherwood Academy, make sense (I haven't looked very closely though). But the other four should be out: Sơn Thủy (has several valid entries, though could do with editing for enwiki links), Strzygi (the page had been vandalised), Rumian (which I've just expanded), while the move Western Rocks, Isles of Scilly → Rosevean is likely an error (as clear from the article, Rosevean is only one among several named landmarks that make up the Western Rocks). – Uanfala (talk) 21:37, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

  Rosevean was an error; I had thought I already removed that, and had already redirected it - removed. Also removed the Rumian as expanded and Strzygi as vandalized. BilledMammal (talk) 06:22, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose all. WP:TRAINWRECK exactly. Blanket RMs like this are a bad idea. Each needs to be considered on its own merits. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:42, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Particularly oppose Sơn Thủy, Quảng Bình → Sơn Thủy. This is a tiny place with a very common name. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:49, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

The only one with coverage is Sơn Thủy, Quảng Bình; we only disambiguate when a title refers to more than one subject covered by Wikipedia. BilledMammal (talk) 06:22, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Well some might think that but WP says otherwise, because of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, the real world does exist and by breaking the more important WP:PT rule this proposed move would be causing trouble for any reader looking for any of the 8 villages with this name, wouldn't it? Obviously yes. Also at the top of the list, why is the first one on your list not to Alakol? Where did the ë come from? In ictu oculi (talk) 09:35, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

That sentence is a direct quote from WP:DAB. BilledMammal (talk) 09:41, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

• The more I look at this list, the greater the concern. The first move in the list proposes a move to a misspelling, while Alakol clearly should be a dab page with Lake Alakol in another country among the dabs. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:39, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Not a misspelling, an alternative name according to our article. BilledMammal (talk) 09:41, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Says who? What is your source for this? The first move in this list is clearly wrong - you're moving it to an unsourced alleged variant spelling while misdirecting a dab page. Do you know anything about Azerbaijian geo names In ictu oculi (talk) 16:31, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose. Mass RMs like these are problematic: the subjects are diverse and the proposed titles may not all be equally well supported or desirable (and that does seem to be the case here). If the nominator can make sounds cases for particular articles, backed by a modicum of evidence and research, then that would be better done on an individual basis. ╠╣uw [talk] 18:15, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.