Talk:Albania in the Eurovision Song Contest 2019

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Iaof2017 in topic GA Review
Good articleAlbania in the Eurovision Song Contest 2019 has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
October 17, 2020Good article nomineeNot listed
January 4, 2021Good article nomineeListed
Current status: Good article

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Albania in the Eurovision Song Contest 2019/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 13:14, 17 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Taking this review for the GAN October 2020 Backlog Drive. MWright96 (talk) 13:14, 17 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose):   b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):  
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (reference section):   b (citations to reliable sources):   c (OR):  
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):   b (focused):  
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):   b (appropriate use with suitable captions):  
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:  

Lead

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  • Mention the writers of the song "Ktheju tokës" for broadness
  • Expand the lead to include that it was the 16th time Albania had competed in the Eurovision Song Contest since its first entry in 2004, its preparations for ESC and the nation's results in the contest

Background

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  • "Prior to the 2020 contest," - 2019
  • "Albania's first entry was performed by Anjeza Shahini who performed" - repetition of "performed"
  • "Albania's second-highest placing to date." - the nation's

Competing entries

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  • "The national broadcaster of Albania, Radio Televizioni Shqiptar (RTSH), organised the 57th of Festivali i Këngës to select their entrant for the Eurovision Song Contest 2020 in Tel Aviv, Israel. It consisted of two semi-finals on 20 and 21 December, and the grand final on 22 December 2019." - All of this portion of text in uncited and requires a reliable source to verify that it is correct
  • "organised the 57th of Festivali i Këngës to select their entrant" - the word in bold isn't needed
  • "for the Eurovision Song Contest 2020 in Tel Aviv, Israel." - 2019
  • "It was the sixteenth time, in which, the competition determined Albania's representative for the contest." - same issue as above
  • How about including a summary of how the list for Festivali i Këngës was determined to be in line with other xxxx at the Eurovision Song Contest xxxx at GA level?
  • The three tables from this section and the final section should include scope="col" to each of their columns to meet MOS:DTT
  • "The list of competing artists and songs eventually were revealed on 17 October 2018." - were offically revealed

Semi-finals

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  • "The contest featured a change with the two semi-finals: all the acts would perform twice in the semi-finals. During the first semi-final, on 20 December 2018, the competing artists traditionally performed with the Symphonic orchestra, while in the second semi-final, on 21 December 2018, they performed the final version of their entries." - this whole paragraph requires reliable sources to verify the information
  • Also you could mention who presented the semi-finals, the exact time they started and any interval acts
  • "the competing artists traditionally performed with the Symphonic orchestra," - a symphonic orchestra
  • The second semi-final table needs to be referenced

Final

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  • "Fourteen songs competed and the winner was determined by the combination of the votes from a nine-member jury panel. Each member of the jury voted by assigning scores from 10–20, 22, 25 and 30 points to their preferred songs. The jury was composed of Agim Krajka, Arta Marku, Dorian Çene, Haig Zacharian, Olsa Toqi, Pali Kuke, Rona Nishliu, Rovena Dilo and Shpëtim Kushta." - All this portion of text needs to be backed up by reliable sources to verify that it is correct
  • Also please mention the hosts for the final and any interval acts
  • "The jury was composed of" - composed of whom exactly?
  • The table for the final needs to be fully referenced

Promotion

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  • "premiered on the official YouTube channel of the Eurovision Song Contest on 10 March 2019." - the Eurovision Song Contest's official YouTube channel on 10 March 2019.
  • " Jonida Maliqi traveled to the Banias Nature Reserve at the Mount Hermon in Israel to film her introductory postcard." - the word in bold isn't needed
  • "she is seen dressed in a 1950s style while walking through her surroundings." - dressed in 1950s sytle clothing while walking through the surroundings.
  • "She is then joined by four female dancers on the edge of a waterfall," - subsequently

At Eurovision

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  • "According to the Eurovision rules, each participating country, except the host country" - repetition of "country"
  • "On 28 January 2019, a special allocation draw was held which placed each country into one of the two semi-finals," - please state where the draw was held
  • The whole of the second paragraph is uncited and will need to be verified by reliable sources
  • "the running order for the semi-finals was decided by the contests producers rather than through another draw," - the producers of the contest

Semi-final

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  • Consider adding information on Albanian's portion of the contest such as who was doing what and what they were dressed like and who directed/choreographed the performance
  • "It was later revealed that Albania placed ninth in the semi-final," - revealed after the contest that Albania had finished ninth,

Voting

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  • "The individual rankings of each jury member as well as the nation's televoting results will be released shortly after the grand final." - were released soon after
  • All the tables below this section will need to be fully referenced
  • Furthermore the tables should have scope="col" added to every single column to comply with MOS:DTT

Notes

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  • All three notes need to be completely referenced

I'm afraid that I will have to fail this nomination for lack of variability and broadness of content. I suggest that the nominator review all of the above the points and take the appropriate actions to improve the article before it is re-nominated at GAN. MWright96 (talk) 18:16, 17 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hello @MWright96:, I want to thank you for your great review and your understandable comments. I'm currently working on the article and I will nominate it at a later time again. Thank you again, I greatly appreciate your feedback. Grettings!--Lorik17 (talk) 19:27, 30 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Albania in the Eurovision Song Contest 2019/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 07:42, 4 January 2021 (UTC)Reply


Good Article review progress box
Criteria: 1a. prose ( ) 1b. MoS ( ) 2a. ref layout ( ) 2b. cites WP:RS ( ) 2c. no WP:OR ( ) 2d. no WP:CV ( )
3a. broadness ( ) 3b. focus ( ) 4. neutral ( ) 5. stable ( ) 6a. free or tagged images ( ) 6b. pics relevant ( )
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked   are unassessed

This is the first time of mine reviewing a Eurovision Song Contest article, but I have similar experience in reviewing songs relevant to Eurovision and concert articles, so hopefully this will go well! --K. Peake 07:42, 4 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Infobox and lead

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  • Final result is not mentioned or sourced anywhere; anything written in the lead needs to be sourced in the body
  • Target to RTSH to Radio Televizioni Shqiptar
  • Mention the song's music video at the end of the first para since that is notable promotion for the lead

Background

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  • Wikilink Eurovision Song Contest
  • "Its highest placing in" → "The country's highest placing in"
  • "which the nation achieved" → "which it achieved"
  • "its first entry was" → "the first entry was"
  • "seven times with both" → "seven times, with both"
  • "finishing in eleventh place" → "finishing in 11th place" per MOS:NUM

Before Eurovision

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Festivali i Këngës

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  • "It consisted of two semi-finals on 20 and 21 December," → "The competition consisted of two semi-finals on 20 and 21 December, respectively,"
  • "confirmed its participation" → "confirmed the nation's participation" to be specific since otherwise it sounds like the broadcaster confirmed its participation
  • "for artists and composers" → "for creators and performers" since that is what the source actually says
  • "on 17 October 2018 shortlisted" → "on 17 October 2018, being shortlisted"
Competing entries
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  • See MOS:TABLECAPTION
  • Lyricist(s) → Lyricist, as there are no songs listed with more than one lyricist unlike there is for composers
Shows
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Semi-finals
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  • "The semi-finals took place" → "The semi-finals of the Eurovision Song Contest 2019 took place"
  • "at 20:45 (CET), respectively." → "at 20:45 (CET) on the respective dates." with the target, because "respectively" is not appropriate here when there is only one time mentioned, despite the two separate days
  • Target first semi-final to Eurovision Song Contest 2019#Semi-final 1
  • "was closed by the Italy's Eurovision Song Contest 2018" → "was closed by Italy's Eurovision Song Contest 2018"
  • "In the first semi-final, the competing artists" → "In it, the competing artists" to avoid overstating the title
  • Target second semi-final to Eurovision Song Contest 2019#Semi-final 2
  • "the twenty-two acts performed the final version" → "the 22 acts delivered performances of the final versions"
  • See MOS:TABLECAPTION for both the tables
  • Why do the tables not have the appropriate source(s) accompanying them?
Final
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  • "The grand final took place" → "The grand final of the Eurovision Song Contest 2019 took place"
  • Remove target on CET
  • "On the same day prior to" → "On the same day, prior to" since this is more specific and otherwise, it may read as if you mean the same day that proceeded the show
  • "fourteen songs competed" → "14 songs competed"
  • "Pali Kuke, Rona Nishliu," → "Pali Kuke, Nishliu,"
  • "announced as the country's representative for the Eurovision Song Contest." → "announced as Albania's representative for the 2019 Eurovision Song Contest."
  • See MOS:TABLECAPTION

Promotion

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At Eurovision

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  • Remove wikilink on Eurovision Song Contest 2019
  • "at the Expo Tel Aviv in" → "at Expo Tel Aviv in"
  • "on 14 and 16 May," → "on the respective dates of 14 and 16 May,"
  • Change Big 5 to Big Five with the target per MOS:LINK2SECT
  • "each participating country," → "all participating countries,"
  • "although, the top ten countries" → "although the top 10 countries"
  • "put into the same pot." → "being put into the same pot."
  • "which placed each country" → "that placed each country"
  • "so that similar songs were not placed" → "for preventing similar songs being placed"
  • "each other, Albania" → "each other; Albania"
  • "perform in position fourteen." → "perform in position 14."
  • The last sentence of this para is completely unsourced; fix this
  • "In the second semi-final, Albania performed fourteenth" → "In the second semi-final of the Eurovision Song Contest 2019, Albania performed 14th"
  • "a total of 96 points:" → "a total of 96 points;"
  • "one from their professional jury and the other from televoting." are you sure this is the correct wording to specify what the source says?
  • "with their names published" → "with their names being published"

Points awarded to Albania

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  • See MOS:TABLECAPTION for both the tables
  • Why do the tables not have the appropriate source(s) accompanying them?

Points awarded by Albania

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  • Same comments as the above two

Split voting results

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  • Members list looks good
  • Same comments as before for the tables

Notes

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  • Good

References

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  • Copyvio score looks too high at 42.9%
  • Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool
  • WP:OVERLINK of European Broadcasting Union on refs 2, 3, 25, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 and 38
  • Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 5
  • Target Radio Televizioni Shqiptar to RTSH on ref 8
  • Remove wikilink on Radio Televizioni Shqiptar for refs 9, 11, 12, 16, 17, 18 and 23
  • WP:OVERLINK of Wiwibloggs on refs 20 and 30
  • Same for refs 24 and 29, but also fix MOS:QWQ issues with these two
  • Cite Telegrafi as work/website instead for ref 26 and fix MOS:QWQ issues
  • Cite The Guardian as work/website instead for ref 28
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  • Good

Final comments and verdict

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Hello @Kyle Peake: I responded to your comments and done everything mentioned above. Thank you for the review.--Lorik17 (talk) 14:46, 4 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Iaof2017: Did some slight copy editing of the lead after you mentioned the music video and live performances but other than that, this article is ready to go.  Pass after a very quick response from you, only hours after my review! --K. Peake 15:59, 4 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Kyle Peake: That's great, thank you again. Best greetings--Lorik17 (talk) 16:09, 4 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Iaof2017: Best of greetings to you as well and it is great how you kept giving thanks for all of my edits; I may review your other Eurovision Song Contest GAN sometime soon actually! --K. Peake 16:24, 4 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Kyle Peake: I really appreciate your work and of course that would be super amazing if you could review other Eurovision articles as well. I'm also planning to work extensively on more articles to get a GA status, after my exams for uni of course. And yeah thanks again and good health for you and your family for the new year :)--Lorik17 (talk) 18:21, 4 January 2021 (UTC)Reply