Talk:Albert King discography

I Don't Know where to list this can someone do it for me i know it was released after Albert king died and I'm not sure to list it under "Live"

Albert King & Freddie King - Blues On Blues (label: Varese Sarabande)(Rel Feb 26, 2002) 65.101.185.54 (talk) 19:20, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Done (under posthumous compilations - six live and studio songs previously released). Ojorojo (talk) 17:21, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

The album "Door to Door" (Chess) is just Albert King and Otis Rush (half of the songs Albert half Otis),there are not B.B.King and Otis Spann,i own this album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.98.138.76 (talk) 21:44, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

albums or compilations

why "Born Under A Bad Sign" is listed as a compilation album? In my opinion it should be in the original albums list. 151.73.16.148 (talk) 16:36, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Stephen Thomas Erlewine wrote is his AllMusic review, "Initially, these sessions were just released as singles, but they were soon compiled as King's Stax debut, Born Under a Bad Sign."[1] King's prior album, The Big Blues, also contains previously released singles, which Bill Dahl describes as a "Great compilation of King's Bobbin sides of the late '50s and early '60s."[from print copy All Music Guide to the Blues album entry] "Compilation" is defined as "a thing, especially a book, record, or broadcast program, that is put together by assembling previously separate items". If an album contains previously released songs (which were separate singles), then it meets the definition. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:33, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

so all the first albums by Elvis Presley, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, just to name a few (practically all rock/soul/r&b/blues albums released in the 1950s/early 1960s) are compilations albums? I do not agree sorry, maybe "The Big Blues" can be considered a compilation, not "Born Under A Bad Sign". 151.73.16.148 (talk) 15:23, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Reliable sources, not personal opinions, should be used in WP articles. But out of curiosity, what constitutes a "studio" or regular album versus a compilation. Also, please note that albums use italics and songs use "quote marks"; sometimes it gets confusing when the same title is used for both a song and an album. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:56, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

You said you often use AllMusic as source, and indeed I often use it because is excellent; check on Allmusic: there in the discographies albums are subdivided in "albums" and "compilations"; I'm sure "Born Under A Bad Sign" (sorry but I am ignorant I can't use italics even if I am Italian :) ) is considered by Allmusic an "album" not a "compilation"; but for me it is the same, do what you think is best. 151.73.16.148 (talk) 15:25, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Only AllMusic's professional biographies and reviews, which appear in prose, should be considered reliable. Its side-bar details are taken from other sources and are frequently wrong for older releases (dates, genres, etc.) Also, where it gets its info for grouping albums under "Albums" and "Compilations" is unknown (it usually isn't included in the reviews). For example, it lists some of King's live albums under "Albums" and others under "Compilations", yet there doesn't appear to be any difference between the two (not "compiled from previously separate items"). BTW, italics may be created by adding two single quote marks or apostrophes (') before and after the album title: ''Album Title'' produces Album Title, see MOS:ITALICS. —Ojorojo (talk) 16:29, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

thank you for the tip about italics... Born Under A Bad Sign yes I did! Now I try to explain why live albums are listed under "Albums" or "Compilations": I'm sure Live Wire/Blues Power is listed as an album because it is an "original" album, it means was published at the time (1968 if I remember well), otherwise if it was compiled posthoumously (for example Wednesday Evening In San Francisco ) it is considered "Compilation". 151.73.16.148 (talk) 16:57, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

I didn't find any sources that support your notion of compilation. Brooke Wentz and Mariam Battaglia define it as "The assembly of a variety of songs from various sources to create one album".[2] Commentary on the U.S. Copyright Act of 1976 includes "In order to be a compilation, the album must consist of separately preexisting materials" and "[i]t is unlikely that a new set of recordings by a single author would be considered a collective work or compilation".[3]

Common to these and the definition above is the idea that the songs are taken from different sources, such as singles or other albums. No mention is made of a lapse of time between the recordings and the release of the album as being a determining factor. This is consistent with the dictionary definition of "compile": "[to] produce (something, especially a list, report, or book) by assembling information from other sources" (it also notes that apparent source is the Latin word "compilare", which means to "plunder or plagiarize"). In any event, there is nothing to change here without a reliable source for the change.

—Ojorojo (talk) 14:56, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Yeah but I am not interested about terminology, for me it's useless (even if the definition by Brooke Wentz and Miriam Battaglia does not suit Born Under A Bad Sign for me); just I think about a person (like me for example) who search on Wikipedia for informations about Albert King in his discography, and he (or she) doesn't find his most famous album (he can find it only in the compilation list); just that, anyway it is fine for me as you prefer. 151.73.16.148 (talk) 16:40, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Better?[4] —Ojorojo (talk) 18:03, 19 April 2023 (UTC)