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Huge sections are duplicated.

This entire needs a large edit. Several paragraphs are simply repeated word for word later. For example, the theme including "This version of the craft has since spread to a number of other towns, most notably San Martín Tilcajete and La Unión Tejalapan, become a major source of income for the area, especially for Tilcajete. The success of the craft, however, has led to the depletion of the native copal trees. Attempts to remedy this, with reforestation efforts and management of wild copal trees has only had limited success" is presented at the beginning and then again word for word further below. Thammer302 (talk) 22:02, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

I feel likewise, perhaps reorganizing the article into sections would help. YamaPlos talk 18:07, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

papier mache is not cartoneria

Forgive the technology buff here :-), cartoneria, the craft of making figures using strips of paper and glue, and often plaster and paint, is as far from papier mache (paper fibers and glue) as, say, "real" paper and papyrus, or even amate, or tapa. Also, "cardboard" is problematic, nowadays meaning and bringing to mind the corrugated material, rather than what was "card board" in olden times, multiple layers of paper glued together, or very thick paper, "paper board". While modern cardboard is much used in modern cartoneria, it wasn't so by Mr. Linares, especially at first, as he was a "cartonero de oficio", and modern cardboard was unknown in Mexico. The concept of "plasterboard" can be helpful, but brings to mind the flat panels used in building houses in the US. I don't have a fix, alas, just a concern YamaPlos talk 18:06, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

split papercraft and wood carving, perhaps a separate specialized article for

The current article is too "heavy" with Oaxaca Alebrijes, and barely covers the original papercraft kind.
There is not just the technique differences, the Oaxaca Alebrijes section presents wood-carved alebrijes as being a regional thing, which of course they are, primarily, but fails to address diversity that does exist. Papercraft alebrijes were originally "Mexico City", but are much more widespread. Definitely something needs to be done... YamaPlos talk 16:09, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

cleanup weasel words

Too many of "the most", "the only", etc., with weak or no reference. Won't be tagging those just yet, but feel free to. I hope, though it's unlikely I'll be able to clean those any time soon. At least I did add a reference to one case, but I still feel that such superlatives can only be used when overwhelming agreement exists, and in something like art, that seldom would be the case YamaPlos talk 17:10, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Additional examples

The article does well in focusing on the history of the creation of the myth. However, it falls short in telling the actual myth. What role does an alebrije fill? What stories are told about them? 2600:1700:7971:3440:A0E0:EB70:1FEB:FE9F (talk) 04:30, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Confusing the wood and the resin? Citation needed

This sentence about copal wood doesn't make complete sense to me: "this type of wood is said to be magical, made from united magic." What is "united magic"? Where is the source for this claim? Is this claim confusing copal wood and copal resin? 2806:101E:4:A5F4:81E6:24A5:55DB:6505 (talk) 16:05, 8 February 2024 (UTC)