Talk:Aleksey Arakcheyev
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Good Article nomination has failed
editThe Good article nomination for Aleksey Arakcheyev has failed, for the following reason:
- An interesting article, but unfortunately some of the writing is not clear - for example His school formation consisted in studying arithmetics under the management of rural d'yachka doesn't really make sense. A good copyedit would do the trick - please renominate once that's done. Worldtraveller 09:41, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- I've removed it from the list again because it has a cleanup tag on it at the moment. Worldtraveller 16:24, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
GA Nom on hold
edit- I would expand the lead to at least two paragraph, ideally 3, which should summarize his life. See WP:Lead
- Under Early life: "knowledgeable and scholarized man" - don't think scholarized is really a word.
- Also it would be nice to know at least some years associated with these events to put it into context.
- Under Paul I's reign, not sure what you mean with this word: "voluntarism" is this what you're intending to imply?
- "He introduced several useful military reforms" what were these reforms and why were they useful?
- Do we know why he made the women have a child a year?
- I marked where inline citations are needed.
Also, you should also cite page numbers for each reference. When citing from a number of different pages, I generally prefer to create a separate "References" section listing the full details of the book and only using short-form citations in the footnotes or Notes section (as here, for example). plange 23:34, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- As for the inline citations you asked for, they come from the non-inlined citations that were already there before I edited or the citations are the end of the paragraph as it pertains to all the paragraph.
- I know what you mean by the footnote section/note section but since it is not a policy even though footnotes are recommended, I think the way they look now is very fine ... it's better to have citations than not to have any whatever the format.
- Modified the lead consequently.
- voluntarism as meant by the provided link ... YES.
- can't answer for the reform part ... i'll look into that.
- i didn't see the why for the 1 child a year policy in what I read. Lincher 21:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't find more about the guy's reforms. Lincher 21:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- re: tags that's fine. I know I'm anal about them and they're not required for GA (but are for FA). I made a change, adding Notes. Aesthetically it just doesn't look good both grouped together like that... plus later when you're wanting to bring it to FA, your structure will be there. Since the policy on 1 child and reform things would have just been "nice to haves" and you've addressed the others, I'll pass this :-) plange 21:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
GA sweeps review: delisted
editIn order to uphold the quality of Wikipedia:Good articles, all articles listed as Good articles are being reviewed against the GA criteria as part of the GA project quality task force. While all the hard work that has gone into this article is appreciated, unfortunately, as of October 10, 2007, this article fails to satisfy the criteria, as detailed below. For that reason, the article has been delisted from WP:GA. However, if improvements are made bringing the article up to standards, the article may be nominated at WP:GAN. If you feel this decision has been made in error, you may seek remediation at WP:GAR.
Since this article was awarded its GA status in 2006, the GA criteria have changed significantly. Aleksey Arakcheyev does not meet these criteria in the following areas:
- Prose: there are some grammar and clarity issues here (for example, sentences like "His school formation consisted in studying arithmetic under a podyachiy (dyak), a knowledgeable and schooled man." and "He was disgraceful in leading the army by hiding misdeeds that were done by his army officers and thus, was stripped of his army functions, later to be reinstated by the next emperor."). Much of the article would benefit from a thorough copyedit.
- Referencing: The entire Early years and "The Arakcheyev regime" sections are unreferenced, and there are quite a few sentences that need explicit citations (for example, "Arakcheyev even ordered the hanging of all cats, on account of his fondness for nightingales." and "Starting in 1816, he organized military-agricultural colonies, an idea initially conceived by Alexander I."). The quotation in the middle of the Alexander I's reign section absolutely needs a cite.
- The "The Arakcheyev regime" sub-heading does not comply with the MoS, and is really too short to be worth a section to itself.
- Both sources given in the Notes are Russian-language sources. To allow verification, either additional English-language sources or translations are really necessary.
Please feel free to contact me on my talk page to leave feedback or for further clarification. Regards, EyeSereneTALK 10:18, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
cleanup should include
edittaking the source material to somebody who understands both that language and English. Then problems like the use of "voluntarism and despotism" would be cleared up. 100.15.120.162 (talk) 18:42, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
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Misleading sentence in summary / recommended change
editI am not an expert on this subject. But this sentence in the summary section seems incorrect,
"After the Tsar's death and Nicholas I's coronation, he lost all his powers and properties."
According to the discussion in the section "Later Life" he did lose his position in government but certainly he wasn't stripped of his land or possessions. Per the section "Later Life" his possessions ultimately did go to the state, but only after his death, and because no legal heir existed. "after Arakcheyev's death the tsar requisitioned his land and property due to the inability to find legal heirs."
I believe the sentence in the summary is incorrect and misleading as written. I would suggest altering it to say "After the Tsar's death and Nicholas I's coronation, he lost all his powers and was exiled to his estate near Novgorod."
DlronW (talk) 01:27, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
There was no exile, he just became sick and unsociable Crawiki (talk) 10:48, 23 February 2019 (UTC)