Talk:Alex James (footballer)

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Goonerak in topic Photo

James in Poland

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If anybody is interested in James' stay in Poland in 1939, let me know. He played in a few games, helped Polish manager Jozef Kaluza, but also wrote a few articles for a sports daily. Tymek 16:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Alex James and Hughie Gallacher goals for Scotland

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Gallacher is widely credited with scoring five goals in the 1929 7-3 win against Ireland. This includes RSSSF and the Scottish FA:

http://www.rsssf.com/tabless/scot-intres1930.html http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_football.cfm?page=3091

This is opposed to the sometimes misreported 4 for Gallacher and one for Alex James. Even the SFA contradict themselves by only crediting Gallacher with 4 goals in the Ireland fixture on their profile of Gallacher:

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/football_player_profile.cfm?page=2492&playerid=113189

The credibility of that second SFA page is undermined further in that they currently state there of Gallacher:-

Date of Birth: March 3, 2006 (age 10)


The SFA even contradict themselves in the first of their two urls provided above since there they credit him with 23 strikes in total.

If you look at this url http://qosfc.com/news-3313 this explanation is given:


A point reported inconsistently is the number of goals scored by ex QoS wonder player Hughie Gallacher. On 23rd February 1929 Scotland played Northern Ireland in Belfast. Gallacher and Alex Jackson put on a wondrous show for the Scots in winning 7-3. Jackson scored two and made the five others. There is no debate Gallacher scored at least four in that match. He said though after the game, "Several newspapers mistakenly credited Alex James with one of my scoring efforts." Gallacher’s SFA profile credits him with four goals in that game and a senior international total of 23 strikes. However elsewhere on their website the SFA state, "He also holds the record for most goals scored by a single player in a match, scoring five in a 7-3 victory over Northern Ireland in 1929."

Having pointed out this inconsistency to the SFA the following reply was received from Bruce Gilmour at the Scottish Football Museum:-

"We agree that the information relating to Hughie on the Scottish FA website is incomplete and we have been advised by our colleagues there that it is their intention that the website will soon be updated to rectify this."

"In relation to the number of goals Hughie scored in the Northern Ireland game, it is the general consensus that Hughie scored five goals in the game which is backed by newspaper reports and several statistical books. There was some controversy over Scotland’s 6th goal which was Hughie’s 5th in that both he and Alex James went for the ball at the same time but apart from a couple of reports, the majority of newspapers credited Hughie with the goal as well as the record books. Hughie himself was insistent that the goal was his, claiming that as he and Alex James (who was a good friend of his) were of a similar build (and of course in 1929 there were no numbers on the jerseys), it was easy for pressmen to make a mistake."


If you dispute that further then you can contact the SFA directly. Their contact info will be on their website somewhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.236.148.69 (talk) 15:20, 25 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Photo

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Your picture of Alex ("in France") is not Alex James. It's the Welsh international Bob John. They played in the same side but this is most definitely John.

http://www.thearsenalhistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Bob-John.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.185.161.125 (talk) 16:45, 10 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

The caption on the Gallica site says that the Arsenal player was their captain. Would Bob John or Alex James have been the team captain at that time? Jmorrison230582 (talk) 10:32, 11 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
Alex James was captain between 1933 and 1937. Bob John was never captain (unless it was maybe a one-off).[1] However, comparing the results of Google Images searches, and the images on their respective OS profiles,[2][3] it does seem that the Gallica photo is John not James. See also the 1932 FA Cup Final lineup, in which both appear.[4] Nzd (talk) 12:14, 11 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
This goes to show how ridiculous wikipedia is. As any Arsenal fan with half an idea of the club's history will tell you the photo is clearly not Alex James but because someone has used a caption that is mistaken, someone else now has to prove that the caption is wrong. Goonerak (talk) 13:28, 24 October 2022 (UTC)Reply