Talk:Alex Otterlei

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A search of contributions by the author suggests a SPA. No edits since 2007. A google search turns up stores selling the albums but no BIO information. Dont seem to be able to verify anything beyond that music was made. Wolfstorm000 (talk) 22:35, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Removed PROD

This article had been tagged as a PROD, based on the fact that the citations included in the article were very poor (sources that don't mention the subject, plus the subject's own website). I removed the PROD, however, because even if they weren't cited, there *are* real sources out there. For instance, I found a 6-page interview of Alex Otterlei from 2005 on an online music eZine called "The Next Level" [1]. Using that pretty decent source, you'd have a single-source article and some (perhaps valid) questions about notability, but that's got to go through a full AfD, I think. --Rnickel (talk) 00:43, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Another legit source: here's a review of one of his albums ("Where Evil Lurks") in another eZine called "Paragon Music Magazine" [2], see page 21. The review also mentions Otterlei's having been featured the year before in their "Independent Bands" issue. I think the reference is to their September 2006 issue, when Otterlei was picked as one of their "Top 6 Picks for Independent Artists You Must Hear" (see [3]); however, the earlier issue is does not seem to be available online, so I can't read the actual article. --Rnickel (talk) 00:53, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

And here are a few more, from Sci Fi mag online: [4] [5] [6] [7] --Rnickel (talk) 01:03, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

And here [8], an article in "Movement Magazine", which, among other things, calls him "Award winning composer Alex Otterlei". I think this guy may actually pass notability. The article just needs a lot of work. --Rnickel (talk) 01:11, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

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Time for our little article to grow up

Three years ago, I objected to a WP:PROD on this article because there were a lot of good sources available on him, even if none of them were cited in the article. Since then, all that's happened is, several of the articles I found have been pasted in as external links, but still none of the actual material in the article has been sourced. It is time for this article to step up to prime time.

To those who are interested in Mr. Otterlei: please take the time to connect claims in the article with backup in reliable third-party coverage of him. This can be done by using ref tags. The cite template can also be very helpful. If you have questions about what to do or how to do it, you can ask questions here or on my talk page, and I am happy to point you in the right direction. However, the article cannot stay as it is indefinitely. Adding information is all well and good, but in the long run, it does not help to build an encyclopedia if the claims do not meet Wikipedia's standards of verification.

In the words of Professor Taub from The Sure Thing, "Clean it up, Gibson." -- Rnickel (talk) 00:59, 24 December 2013 (UTC)