Talk:Alexander Lippisch

Latest comment: 2 years ago by 75.161.38.33 in topic Dornier Aerodyne

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The categories are not over-broad. I have modelled them on the categories used in this page for Wernher von Braun, please take a look.

Notability

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I understand he is a pioneer in aerodynamics by the text but accordingly, the text says everything he ever did failed or was eventually ignored by private and public sectors. And it looks like nothing he invented really did anything for the aviation industry (ie his theories were not built upon). So why is he notable? .:DavuMaya:. 16:35, 20 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

Ummm, because he pioneered the delta wing and ran lengthy studies that demonstrated it's suitability for supersonic flight that led to it being a major wing planform to this day, over 50 years later? I don't understand what you mean about "nothing he invented really did anything for the aviation industry". "What he did" was directly responsible for the B-58, F-92/102/106, and indirectly responsible for every other supersonic delta built by the US, UK, France, USSR, Canada, Israel, India and other's I'm sure I've forgotten. Does the article really imply otherwise? If so, it apparently needs a major cleanup. 14:10, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
He falls well within the definitions of notable (if porn stars can have Wikipedia pages, I think a famous aircraft designer can). The article probably exaggerates his influence on the Convair XP-92. DonPMitchell (talk) 00:00, 20 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
Yes, it is strange how one of the most successful and still current aviation pioneers looks failed and forgotten? (He was probably a bit of the style crazy inventor after all?)
I have added the thread into the future (from 1945 when the client Nazi Germany was bankrupt and American soldiers are standing in the door and his main project seems to have failed), "Importance for the delta wing and supersonic flight concepts". I have done this by collecting the links to other articles in Wikipedia, exactly what Wikipedia is supposed to do.
This man, Alexander Lippisch, is probably one of the most important aviation pioneers with a long and successful career, even though it did not look like that before on this Wikipedia page. Even his most successful project the Lippisch P.13a never flew. But despite that, this particular project was the opening into the future, the basis for all future supersonic-delta winged aircraft including Space shuttle. He laid the foundation for completely modern aircraft such as Saab 39 Gripen and Eurofighter. That the knowledge eventually ended up on Boeing. He even made hang gliders work.
I think it is obvious that a reader should understand the thread in an article and the links to move on to see the development. I think the question Notability is very well asked (even if I completely agree with DonPMitchell). I hope I solved it with my compilation?

--Zzalpha (talk) 21:20, 5 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

War Criminal??

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Where is the evidence of this? It is not even mentioned in the text of him even being investigated. This sounds like propaganda to slur his name. I have removed this clause. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.98.23 (talk) 16:06, 15 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Zögling

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This was the Lippisch design produced in the greatest numbers; enormous numbers of pilots learned to fly on it, a fair number were hurt or killed by it and copies and variants appeared world wide, possibly built in greater numbers than any other aircraft (discuss, with refs). Simple, unsexy but very influential.TSRL (talk) 23:37, 18 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

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This article needs additional citations for verification.

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I have made research for the Hermann Behrbohm and Bertil Dillner articles and there are some big problems meeting up to "This article needs additional citations for verification. " due to some circumstances:

  • Germany were burnt down to the ground and what was left looted to a large extent at the end of IIWW, so most of the records
  • Companies like Saab AB and Boeing empty their personal staff files after some years (this article is about events like 70 years ago) and are gone.
  • Projects were military secrets and as such large portions of the project documentation is also destroyed.

It means that what is left are things like:

  • The creations (and their attributions can't really be doubted)
  • Newspaper articles exists even though they are rare, because the research and development were military secrets
  • Informations and notes from relatives.

I have received some information and articles from the relatives of Hermann Behrbohm and Bertil Dillner that supports the texts of this article about Lippisch (includes relations to Lippisch and his works). So I have been able to improve Lippisch article by such contributions and relate them to the documentation (in their articles) of these people related to Lippisch work.

I don't think we can get better to meet up the comment "This article needs additional citations for verification.", and I believe the present documentation is fairly enough, to remove the comment "This article needs additional citations for verification.".

--Zzalpha (talk) 14:13, 4 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Dornier Aerodyne

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This articles suggests that the Dornier Aerodyne was developed in the US after WW2. The article on the Dornier Aerodyne states that it was developed in Nazi Germany after the war. This is.. confusing. 75.161.38.33 (talk) 10:09, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply