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more stamps
editmore stamps: (but I am not sure):
Time in Space?
editAccording to the article, Leonov only spent 1 d 2h 2m in space, which is the time for the Voskhod 2 mission, yet he was also part of the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project, which, for the Soyuz crew lasted 5d 22h 30m, bringing his total time in space to 7d 32m. Is this correct, or am I just mistaken? --GurraJG 17:11, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
email is not a verifiable source
editI don't know what this is about, but email is not a verifiable source. I have removed it from the article. --Jtir 11:37, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Leonov was the president of the [[Society of Serbian-Russian friendship]] <ref>{{subst:cite email|author=Друштво српско-руског пријатељства| title=Re: Леонов|senddate=2007-02-24| email=Да Алексеј Леопнов је био председник друштва. <br><br> 2007/2/22, Nikola Smolenski <smolensk@eunet.yu>:<br>><br> Да ли је космонаут Алексеј Леонов својевремено био председник Друштва<br> српско-руског пријатељства?| accessdate=2007-02-24}}</ref>.
All unmanned circumlunar test flights failed?
editThat is simply not true. [5] -- Nidator T / C 16:58, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
In Science Fiction
editThe Leonov in Stanley Kubrick's movie 2010:_The_Year_We_Make_Contact featured a spaceship to Jupiter, was named in honor of Alexei Leonov. Pomona17 (talk) 14:48, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
All true except that it's not a Kubrick film. It was directed by Peter Hyams with no input from Kubrick. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.223.130.60 (talk) 04:54, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
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First name
editThis may have already been discussed and finalized, but . . .
All the books and printed info I have in my library has Leonov's first name as "Alexei" NOT "Alexey" nor "Aleksei."
This may not be an important issue, but I'd like to know why "Alexey" is used. 2600:8800:50B:6700:C23F:D5FF:FEC5:89B6 (talk) 05:59, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
- None of these variants is "more correct" than another; they all merely are different (and equally valid) transliterations of the Russian name "Алексей". And since all of these variants are used in the English language, the one closest to WP:RUS has been selected for the article title. Hope this helps.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 24, 2017; 13:15 (UTC)
Requested move 9 March 2019
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: moved (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 18:35, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
Alexey Leonov → Alexei Leonov – I have been building a library of books on Alexei and I have found that most books in English spell his first name as Alexei. My observation is confirmed by Google Ngrams:https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Alexey+Leonov%2CAlexei+Leonov&year_start=1930&year_end=2020. This page should be moved per WP:COMMONNAME. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 17:58, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
- Support per nom. The linked authority controls prefer this spelling, and it matches what was used on the book he co-authored. -- Netoholic @ 23:52, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
- Support, per nom and Netoholic. Category name should change too. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:22, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- Support per all above. Dicklyon (talk) 05:32, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- Support per WP:COMMONNAME. Danielklein (talk) 12:33, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
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Holding area for unsourced content
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What do you want to do with these? Sure is a lot of stamps. Kees08 (Talk) 07:08, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- Hopefully a few of the notable ones are mentioned in Gerovitch (2011 or 2015). I am going to prosify the legacy section soon and see what happens. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 09:01, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Fair use replacement
editThere is a PD image of Leonov holding one of his drawings in space, which could replace the fair use image we have. Seems like an obvious choice but thought I would ask first. File:Leonow,_Alexei.png Kees08 (Talk) 17:52, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- We could just add that photo of him onto here without replacing the image...but I don't know the copyright/fair use polices that well so from that angle I'm not sure OkayKenji (talk page) 19:58, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- Per WP:FAIR USE, if we ask the questions "Can this non-free content be replaced by a free version that has the same effect?" and "Could the subject be adequately conveyed by properly sourced text without using the non-free content at all?", I think the answer is 'yes', that including the image of his drawing has the same effect, and that properly sourced text adequately conveys the meaning. From the same page, For example, an excerpt of a significant artistic work, notable for both its production and performance, is usually included only in an article about the work, which is then referenced in those about its performer and its producer (where these are notable enough for their own articles). I believe that applies as well. There might be more disqualifying factors, but I think we can replace the image with the PD image, which matches the intent of the policy goal To support Wikipedia's mission to produce perpetually free content for unlimited distribution, modification and application by all users in all media. Kees08 (Talk) 21:33, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- Kees08, actually, this specific painting is mentioned and described in prose. So there is no substitute. We should just clarify the fair use rationale to point that out. We can add File:Leonow, Alexei.png when we expand the article. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 21:56, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- My thought process might not make sense, but I will lay it out anyways. I do not think we need the image if it is by itself, it does not do anything to aid the paragraph that is written about it. The paragraph writes about how the painting is similar to a shot in the film. Now, if we changed the image to be a side-by-side of a screenshot of the film and include the painting, I think that could aid the reader as they could see the similarities between the two, which is what the article specifically discusses. Interpretation of the fair use policy varies though, and if my interpretation does not match the consensus that's fine. Kees08 (Talk) 22:12, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- That is a good point. I agree. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 22:28, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation, and also congrats on becoming an Admin! OkayKenji (talk page) 02:36, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks! Do either of you object then if I remove it? I intend to rent the movie at some point and I can grab a screenshot then, combine it into one image, and add it back to the article. I am the worst type of aerospace fanatic and have never seen it. Kees08 (Talk) 07:07, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- Kees08, I added a screenshot. What do you think? They don't look very similar. We would have to think about if we should keep it at all. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 10:45, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- Well, them not looking similar is a reason to keep it I suppose. It aides the reader to show that they are not as similar as Leonov suggested (although in general concept, yes). I'd probably vote to keep it, but do not feel strongly about it. Kees08 (Talk) 07:27, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
- Let's see how it feels after we are done expanding the article. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 07:32, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
- Well, them not looking similar is a reason to keep it I suppose. It aides the reader to show that they are not as similar as Leonov suggested (although in general concept, yes). I'd probably vote to keep it, but do not feel strongly about it. Kees08 (Talk) 07:27, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
- Kees08, I added a screenshot. What do you think? They don't look very similar. We would have to think about if we should keep it at all. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 10:45, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks! Do either of you object then if I remove it? I intend to rent the movie at some point and I can grab a screenshot then, combine it into one image, and add it back to the article. I am the worst type of aerospace fanatic and have never seen it. Kees08 (Talk) 07:07, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- My thought process might not make sense, but I will lay it out anyways. I do not think we need the image if it is by itself, it does not do anything to aid the paragraph that is written about it. The paragraph writes about how the painting is similar to a shot in the film. Now, if we changed the image to be a side-by-side of a screenshot of the film and include the painting, I think that could aid the reader as they could see the similarities between the two, which is what the article specifically discusses. Interpretation of the fair use policy varies though, and if my interpretation does not match the consensus that's fine. Kees08 (Talk) 22:12, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- Kees08, actually, this specific painting is mentioned and described in prose. So there is no substitute. We should just clarify the fair use rationale to point that out. We can add File:Leonow, Alexei.png when we expand the article. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 21:56, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- Per WP:FAIR USE, if we ask the questions "Can this non-free content be replaced by a free version that has the same effect?" and "Could the subject be adequately conveyed by properly sourced text without using the non-free content at all?", I think the answer is 'yes', that including the image of his drawing has the same effect, and that properly sourced text adequately conveys the meaning. From the same page, For example, an excerpt of a significant artistic work, notable for both its production and performance, is usually included only in an article about the work, which is then referenced in those about its performer and its producer (where these are notable enough for their own articles). I believe that applies as well. There might be more disqualifying factors, but I think we can replace the image with the PD image, which matches the intent of the policy goal To support Wikipedia's mission to produce perpetually free content for unlimited distribution, modification and application by all users in all media. Kees08 (Talk) 21:33, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
Two Sides of the Moon
editThe initial publishing date is listed as 2006 in the article, however Christine Toomey's website says 2004 and there is a Guardian review from 2004. I looked it up on Worldcat, and the 2004 edition even has a different cover and the introduction was only written by Armstrong. I'm not sure what source is the best RS for the information, ideas? Kees08 (Talk) 06:53, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- I have a copy of this book but I can't find it right now (too many books!) However, I remember Tom Hanks being in there. This source appears to be accurate about the 2006 edition (intro by Hanks; foreword by Armstrong). --- Coffeeandcrumbs 07:19, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah he did the 2006 edition intro with Armstrong, that's the copy that I have. I'll try to rephrase the paragraph to be more accurate tomorrow unless someone else gets to it. Kees08 (Talk) 07:21, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
Contradiction: maiden name of Leonov's wife
editThe article provides two different maiden names for Leonov's wife. The section "Early life and military service" says, "On 13 December 1959, he married Svetlana Pavlovna...." The "Later life and death" section says, "Leonov was survived by his wife Svetlana Dozenko" (latter statement provided by me). Both statements are supported by citations. If anyone can resolve this contradiction with reliable authority, please do so. — O'Dea (talk) 19:21, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- Resolved by providing her full maiden name (Svetlana Pavlovna Dozenko) and the citation. Pavlovna is her patronymic name and Dozenko is her maiden family name, so, according to Eastern Slavic naming customs, both variants, Svetlana Pavlovna and Svetlana Dozenko, are correct. Sozertsatel (talk) 17:41, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Sozertsatel: Thank you. — O'Dea (talk) 08:14, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
Recent edit
editCoffeeandcrumbs I seem to recall this being pretty true, have time to double check if the removal was appropriate? Diff Kees08 (Talk) 04:51, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
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Title
editThe correct and standard romanization of Алексей Леонов is Aleksey Leonov, not Alexei Leonov. For purposes of standardization and simplicity that should be the article title.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 17:31, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
Chess Player?
editTal (who would become world champ) played two games against Leonov in 1949 and 1950 but we do not know the first name of his opponent. Is it possible that it was the this Leonov who played Tal? Both would have been juniors and Tal in 1949 was not yet a titled player which would have made it more plausible that they could have played against each other -- several years later and Tal was already playing at high levels and unlikely to have been paired against an amateur. 50.230.251.244 (talk) 04:12, 14 July 2022 (UTC)