Talk:Alexios I of Trebizond
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The contents of the Theodora Axouchina page were merged into Alexios I of Trebizond on 6 September 2017. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page. |
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Citations and Content
editCan we get some citations and footnotes in the article? Also, the article looks like it was taken out of a histoical novel in content such as "...were suddenly surprised by Andronikos Gidos, a general of Laskaris, in the Rough Passes of Nicomedia, and scarcely a man of them was left to tell the tale." Dinkytown 21:27, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Odd sentence
editAnybody know what the first sentence of paragraph 2 under Seljuk and Nicaean Wars ("Kay Khusrau I, the new Sultan of Iconium, besieged Trebizond in 1205 or 1206.") has to do with the remainder of the paragraph? Or is it just an unconnected incident and should be separated? 93.172.168.103 (talk) 11:59, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Copyvio qurery
editBlack Kite 21:43, 21 April 2009 (UTC)}}
I think it is likely, based on the language alone, that some of this was cribbed from either Miller's Trebizond or Finlay's History of Greece and Trebizond, but as the article read before I started revising it, I could not find more than one passage which clearly was taken from one of them--which I marked as an explicit paraphrase of Miller. Since the possible sources are so old, we may be able to fix this problem by aggressively revising this into contemporary English style & adding further relevant details: although the information for Alexios I is sketchy, it would provide a more complete account than this article currently presents. (And much of the most recent research is in Greek, so if someone conversant in Modern Greek could use that material instead of translating from English to Greek, we could base this article on the el.wikipedia one.) -- llywrch (talk) 06:50, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think this is a copyright violation now. -- llywrch (talk) 05:07, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Merger proposal
editThere several articles about consorts of various Emperors of Trebizond that will never amount to more than a stub: for three of them (such as Theodora Axouchina) we don't even know her name, & for three more (such as the wives of Manuel Megas Komnenos) that is all we really know. The rationale for these articles (I'm assuming) is that being the Imperial consort makes them notable, yet from my research there is no such defined office. (It's like being the wife of a corporate CEO: yes, that woman could greatly influence the actions of said corporation, but not formally or reliably.) And most of the information in Theodora Axouchina on Theodora either exists in this article or could be merged into it, I'd like to merge that article into this one. -- llywrch (talk) 00:51, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Agreed and merged in Theodora Axouchina Klbrain (talk) 21:00, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
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editThe comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Alexios I of Trebizond/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
I am quite sure that at least part of this article is a direct quotation from William Miller's Trebizond the Last Greek Empire, which is unfortunately unavailable online since the potions of it that were online were removed by orthodoxchristianity.net. Can anyone verify or disprove my suspicions for the two paragraphs on Trebizond's wars with the Seljuks and Theodore Lascaris? This goes the same for the portions on David Komnenos, which were obviously cut and pasted from between the two.--Dustiescott 06:09, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
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Last edited at 17:02, 3 February 2015 (UTC). Substituted at 07:15, 29 April 2016 (UTC)