Talk:Algonquian peoples

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This article incorporates a whole slew of text originally at Algonquin. You can view the history there. My reasons for moving the text here was to make room for information on the Algonquins themselves, as the "Algonquin" article was about the Algonquian speaking peoples. This is sort of like an article about Belarus containing lots of general information on Slavic peoples, but nothing specifically about Belarus. QuartierLatin1968 23:17, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

This article needs serious expansion. At present it misses half the Algonquian peoples. I'll try to do it if I have time, but if somebody wants to start, dig in. Diderot 19:41, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I added a bunch more names (and location) in response to this point, but beware the Ethnologue! They're notorious for multiplying and splitting languages that would never be considered languages by the speakers themselves. An attitude all the more questionable thanks to the widespread sense of common kinship among Algonkian peoples (which has of course also been aided and abetted by pan-Indianism). QuartierLatin1968 08:44, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Have just added the remains of a paragraph from Algonkin. I wonder if we should think of coming up with a different name for the Algonkins – perhaps Anicinape or Algonkin (just one lonely tribe of ten reserves in central Canada, not the whole phylum HONESTLY).— Preceding unsigned comment added by QuartierLatin1968 (talk • contribs) 09:32, 17 January 2005 (UTC)

Let the Algonquian Tribes speak for themselves! By looking at their self-designations, the grouping becomes relatively easy. For example, under "Anishinaabeg/Anihšināpek/Anicinapek/Neshnabék" group, we have the Ojibwe, Odaawaa, Potawatomi, as well as the Algonkin, Mississaugas and the Nipissing, and the Quinnipiac (as "Eansketambawg"). Similarly, the Delaware Tribes, much of the Atlantic Tribes and the Wabanaki Tribes can also be grouped together as "Lenapek/Renapek/Al'nambak" group, Cree group as "Inu/Iyu/Iru/Ithu" group, the Severn Ojibwe that is also known as Oji-Cree as "Anishinini," etc. CJLippert 15:10, 1 March 2006 (UTC) Slight modification by adding more details CJLippert 15:52, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

The text says: "At the time of the first European settlements in South America, Algonquian tribes occupied what is now New England, New Jersey, southeastern New York, New Brunswick, Kawaii"... and "Kawaii" links to the page on the Japanese concept of cuteness. Can someone knowledgeable figure out what this was supposed to mean in the article, and fix it? 71.236.160.3 (talk) 09:05, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

This is a very incomplete article considering the subject..the Alogonquians were one of the biggest language groups in America..this article needs to be expanded..also they were and are all over the south...not just concentrated in New England.Lonepilgrim007 (talk) 18:31, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Western areas

Algonquian people in the present states of Wyoming, Colorado, southwestern Nebraska and northwestern Kansas were ancestors to Cheyenne and Arapaho tribes. Frink, Lisa. (2006) Gender and Hide Production. Lanham, MD: AltaMira Press. p. 30. ISBN 0-7591-0850-1.

This cannot be right. The Cheyenne migrated into the area from the upper Missouri. Fred Bauder 16:16, 2 February 2012 (EST)

What is the story with the map showing a couple of pockets of red on the Pacific coast? What tribe(s) does this represent? The same graphic is used in several topics, but similarly no explanation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.243.201.27 (talk) 15:55, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Hundreds of millions

This can not be correct. It is unsourced. The pre-contact population of the total of the western hemisphere, possibly, but not for the Algonquian peoples. Maybe a couple of hundred thousand, perhaps more, but certainly not "hundreds of millions". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gingervlad (talk • contribs) 22:56, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Plural of "Algonquian"

We can find, in this article, both plural forms: The Algonquian are one of the most [...] / The Algonquians of New England [...] Which one is correct? both are? Kintaro (talk) 22:29, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

To add to article

To add to article: where are the Algonquian peoples/languages believed to have originated? 76.189.141.37 (talk) 04:09, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

(3 years later) To add to article: where are the Algonquian peoples/languages believed to have originated? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 02:38, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

An unnecessary oxymoron

The article contains this sentence:
"The Ojibwe cultivated wild rice"

If they cultivated it, then it wasn't wild. Perhaps this could be remedied by giving the genus and species of the plant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.24.5.76 (talk) 18:19, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

The sentence is indeed incorrect. In the modern era, Red Lake Nation cultivates wild rice (also known as manoomin; Zizania palustris; however, it would be more correct to say that the Ojibwe harvested wild rice from lakes and rivers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:446:4300:2770:8C49:281:4333:B9F3 (talk) 14:21, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Questionable validity

The article contains the statement
"Northerners developed a practice of going hungry for several days at a time. Historians hypothesize that this practice kept the population down, according to Liebig's law."

It's not at all clear how the practice of voluntary fasting relates to a limiting factor (Liebig's law) and population regulation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.24.5.76 (talk) 18:32, 8 February 2018 (UTC)