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All of My Love
editI thought this was called "All of My Love?" (Notice the "of")
I have seen both, but as long as both can reach this page, it should be fine-- unless Jimmy Page of someone edits this page.
- "Of" appears in the song lyrics, but not in the title. The correct title is "All My Love". Stonemason89 (talk) 02:22, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- So would it be appropriate to mention this fact (that the actual lyrics are different from the title) in the article? — Loadmaster (talk) 21:01, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
Soft rock?
editI see the genre listed as soft rock. Is it really? I know it's softer than the usual Zep record, but I'd class it more as a hard rock ballad. The radio stations seem to agree with me: I've never heard this song on light rock stations, but I've often heard it on hard rock and classic rock stations. marbeh raglaim 23:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. I'm gonna change it to Hard Rock, because even though it is a softer ballad type song, that doesn't fit into genre. RENTASTRAWBERRY FOR LET? röck 04:15, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
- If anyone objects, we can always fall back on calling it simply "rock." marbeh raglaim 00:38, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. Nothing wrong with just "Rock". Crud3w4re 05:54, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
- It's not just soft for Led Zeppelin's standards, but it's really darn soft. And emotional. And... synthesizers. Yet I like it. "Rock" is definitely an acceptable label, yet so is "Ballad" or "Rock ballad". —Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 23:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
It's sure as hell not Progressive Rock, as someone labelled it. AznWarlord (talk) 00:45, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
- I think it should be put as symphonic rock which is a sub genre of progressive rock . The song also includes a synthesizer, the wikipedia page for symphonic rock says "Additionally, they may play with the accompaniment of a symphony orchestra or use a synthesizer or mellotron to emulate orchestral instruments." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theunknown901921 (talk • contribs)
- We go by published reviews and analysis, not by comparing personal impressions. Binksternet (talk) 19:18, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
the song can fit in more than one "Genre". Genres are not concrete. The group Led Zeppelin was a hard Rock band in general with a large direct Black Blues influence as stated by Plant/Page. This particulars song, a Ballad was "soft' enough to be played on non Classic Rock stations. Is it Rock? Yes? Pop? Yes. Soft? Yes? Ballad? Yes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghoul922 (talk • contribs) 00:56, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
Odd song line
editI never understood this line: "Proud Aryan one word, my will to sustain." Anyone have any ideas what this means? 71.251.20.173 02:53, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Maybe the writer is a proud Aryan? I don't know. Crud3w4re 05:58, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
- I've heard a couple explinations of what he was writing. One was that his daughter's name was Aryan, but I don't think that is accurate. Another is that it is a reference to Karacs physical appearance: blond hair blue eyes. The last, and what I think is most likely, was that there was a character in the book Simarillion named Arien who happened to be a valient, proud character. I don't see this as a stretch mainly because Plant has gotten a lot of inspiration from other Lord of the Rings books e.g. Battle of Evermore and Ramble On. RENTASTRAWBERRY FOR LET? röck
- He's not saying Aryan, he's saying Ariane. Listen to the song again; the accent is clearly on the third syllable, not the first. Stonemason89 (talk) 16:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, and Ariane is another name for the Greek Goddess Ariadne. As someone below points out, this song is a pretty clear allusion to Penelope, who is praying to Ariadne (another abandoned wife) to sustain her until she learns Odysseus's fate.--99.253.28.216 (talk) 20:33, 8 January 201
Robert Plant wrote All of My Love in memory of his young son who had recently passed away. It contains an image of weaving a thread through time, and the endless thread as immortal life. The invocation of Ariane (Ariadne), who gave a thread to Theseus so he could find his way out of the Labyrinth, spurs him back to his weaving, back to creation. His son, gone, is now a feather in the wind. prosperocaliban April 2014
I always wondered if this line was for his wife, Maureen? She was of Indian descent. Aryan is often used to indicate people from India. I know that she soon gave birth to another son. Maybe Robert is saying he needs her to give him the will to father another child. I have read he struggled with tremendous guilt feelings as a husband and father after the loss of his little boy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bartola13 (talk • contribs) 06:53, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
Double key hit in synth solo?
editAt about 2m50s in to this song, during the synth sol, there's a point where he hits two notes almost at once. I don't have a finely-tuned musical ear, but it sure sounds like a mistake - hitting two keys instead of one.
Does anyone know the history behind this? - JBazuzi 17:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- I actually came here to look for an answer to this exact question. It almost certainly is a mistake, since the keys hit are next to each other and Led Zeppelin has many examples of "mistakes" appearing in their songs. However that's just my opinion and probably constitutes original research so maybe someone knows definitively. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.24.60.12 (talk) 00:09, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
This song also has the notorious "squeek" by John Bohnams's bass drum pedal. He was a Ludwig endorsement guy and those pedals were notorious for squeaking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.138.143.216 (talk) 16:09, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Odyssey
editI think All My Love is referencing Penelope's lament for the return of her husband, Odysseus.
Odyssey: Penelope waits and weaves laertes death shroud at her loom by candle light, never planning to finish her work of course. That would mean she had to choose a suitor, by her own promise.
All My Love: "Should I fall out of love, my fire in the light To chase a feather in the wind Within the glow that weaves a cloak of delight There moves a thread that has no end. Within the glow that weaves a cloak of delight There moves a thread that has no end.
For many hours and days that pass ever soon the tides have caused the flame to dim At last the arm is straight, the hand to the loom Is this to end or just begin?"
Odyssey: Penelope often struggled with her inner self. She felt that Odysseus was still alive but she couldn't be sure. She dreaded choosing one of the suitors, but was preparing herself to do so.
The "feather in the wind" is probably Odysseus himself. Poseidon blows him all over the sea.
All My Love: "The cup is raised, the toast is made yet again One voice is clear above the din Proud Aryan one word, my will to sustain For me, the cloth once more to spin "
Odyssey: The suitors sit and toast in the Penelope's din. She returns to the loom.
Wiki: "Aryan" is an English language word derived from a Sanskrit and Avestan word meaning "noble/spiritual one".
All My Love: "Yours is the cloth, mine is the hand that sews time his is the force that lies within Ours is the fire, all the warmth we can find He is a feather in the wind "
And she waits, saving her love for Odysseus.
Penultimate?
editThe first sentence says this song is the penultimate (which means "2nd-to-most", not "most") on the album. What, then, is the ultimate song on the album? (Or, as is more likely, that's a mistaken use of the word).
-Penultimate is usually used to mean "second to last."Joe routt (talk) 04:24, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Frequency of Performance
editRobert Plant and his Band of Joy played this in April of 2011 at the Santa Barbara Bowl. This was said to have been the first performance of this song since Led Zeppelin played it in Germany in 1980. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.230.189.211 (talk) 02:40, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
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8/2016 genre edits
edit@Mlpearc: Anzar describes it as "very pop rock with light accents of reggae" (he uses bold for the genres – it makes them easier to spot). He doesn't appear to mention symphonic rock or progressive rock. The Williamson ref that was removed describes "underpinned by a semi-classical arrangement" (Shadwick calls it "cheesy"), which like Thiery's "reggae" doesn't rise to the level for inclusion as a genre. The two refs that were removed specifically state "love ballad". "Pop rock" is so broad, it is of little help. (Note that Infobox song uses class=hlist, so it doesn't need to be added again). —Ojorojo (talk) 19:45, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
@Rlendog: Hey again. I see that the sleeve showing individual photos of band members is supposed to identify a promo release. However, I checked discogs and don't see the promo releases using the artwork. While the photo uses the "ATCO" label, I checked other sources (rateyourmusic, vjez, eBay, blog) using the Atlantic label. Can you confirm the authenticity of the sleeve? Do you think those sleeves are possibly fake? Thanks. -- George Ho (talk) 19:55, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- The version I uploaded was the Atlantic version (I believe from rateyourmusic). So I can't speak to the Atco version. Atco and Atlantic are related, so the Atco version may well be valid. Discogs doesn't always have all versions (nor does rateyourmusic or 45cat), especially for relatively obscure releases, so it doesn't bother me that this label is only shown on some sources. Rlendog (talk) 20:36, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
@Thisbirdhadflown: Hello. How did you obtain this sleeve having the ATCO logo? George Ho (talk) 21:46, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
@George Ho: Apologies for the late reply. I cropped the image from somebody else's upload on Discogs which has since been replaced. As for the authenticity of the sleeve, I am not sure. https://www.discogs.com/release/7857053-All-My-Love/images/update Thisbirdhadflown (talk) 22:52, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. Nonetheless, I already took the image to Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2019 August 22. George Ho (talk) 22:55, 22 August 2019 (UTC)