Talk:All for You (Janet Jackson song)/GA2

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Nominator: 11JORN (talk · contribs) 01:11, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 06:33, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

   b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (reference section):

   b. (citations to reliable sources):

   c. (OR):

   d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects):

   b. (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

I will go through this today, although it may run into tomorrow depending on time constraints! --K. Peake 06:33, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• The recording year of 2000 is not sourced anywhere in the body
• "It was released to" → "The song was released to"
• Pipe pop to Contemporary hit radio
• Pipe urban radio to Urban adult contemporary
• "In the United States, the track peaked atop" → "In the US, the song peaked atop" per MOS:US
• "hit in the United States," → "hit in the US," per above
• ""All for You" also attained" → "The song also attained"
• "The music video for "All for You" was" → "An accompanying music video was" with the wikilink
• "Jackson performed the track" → "Jackson performed the song"
• "and was later added" → "and it was later added"
• ""All for You" won several accolades," → "The song won several accolades,"

Background and development

• "at the moment"." → "at the moment."" per MOS:QUOTE on full sentences
• I cannot access the Billboard books source, so would like to ask does it mention in the present tense that they "usually listen" to these works or "usually listened" in the past please?

It's in the present tense Alex ^{reach me!} 02:17, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

• "to Jackson's lyrics for" → "to her lyrics for"
• "It originally came in" → "The line originally came in"
• "the hairstylist and everybody involved" → "the hairstylist, and everybody involved" and invoke the ref again at the end of this sentence since it uses direct quoting

Release

• Merge this to being in the same section as critical reception, as it is only one para

I merged this one with the previous section as from my point of view they go together better than the next one, if you don't mind Alex ^{reach me!} 02:17, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

• "All for You" is not mentioned as being considered for the album's title by the source
• "he said" at the end of the sentence is redundant

Recording and composition

• "Jackson and her longtime collaborators Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis." → "Jackson with Jam and Lewis."
• Remove overly obvious wikilink on guitar
• Pipe Brian "Big Bass" Gardner to Brian Gardner
• Add some more info regarding the instrumentation to the audio sample text
• Remove italo disco band introduction to Change as you have done this previously
• "she included it on" → "she included the track on"
• "have to ride it tonight"," → "have to ride it tonight."" per MOS:QUOTE
• "but gets disappointed by" → "However, she becomes disappointed by"
• "what it "conjures" → "that the track "conjures"
• Pipe Vulture to Vulture (website) and put more of the quotes into your own words

Critical reception

• Retitle to Release and reception, placing the release info as the first para
• "considered it "a" → "considered "All for You" "a" plus invoke the ref at the end of this sentence as it uses direct quoting
• "According to Michael Cragg of" → "According to Cragg of" per him having been introduced previously
• Remove or replace The Tech per WP:RSSM
• Cite Neumu as publisher instead
• "Tom Sinclair of Entertainment Weekly described it" → "Sinclair of Entertainment Weekly described it" and try to put the last part more into your own words
• "Ed Henderson from Slant Magazine noted that" → "Henderson from Slant Magazine noted that"

Commercial performance

• Pipe pop to Contemporary hit radio and urban to Urban adult contemporary on the img text, although remove links to any of these in this section's prose as that was done earlier in release
• "In the United States, "All for You"" → "In the US, "All for You"" per MOS:US
• [47][42] should be in numerical order
• "becoming the year's longest-running" → "becoming 2001's longest-running"
• Mention that the certification was in the US and how many copies it shelved from this
• Pipe Nielsen SoundScan to Luminate (company)
• Since you mention the Australian chart twice in the same sentence, I would suggest to use its full name on the first instance
• Mention the New Zealand chart by name too
• "In the United Kingdom, "All for You"" → "In the UK, "All for You"" and mention the UK Singles Chart later in this sentence with the wikilink
• "in the United Kingdom." → "in the UK."

Accolades

• I would suggest to make the first para of this a sub-section for accolades in reception, while moving the music video awards to the video section
• The Top-Selling R&B/Hip-Hop Single award is not sourced
• Pipe Lady of Soul Awards to Soul Train Music Awards
• "also winning the accolade for Most Played Song" → "while it won Most Played Song"
• Pipe ASCAP Rhythm & Soul Music Awards to American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers
• OutKast → Outkast with the wikilink

Music video

• Wikilink music video in prose and the img text
• Put more of Jackson's quote into your own words
• ""Dammn Baby" (2016) e" → ""Dammn Baby" (2016), and"
• Second para looks good!
• "Kovie Biakolo described the visual as" → "Biakolo described the visual as"
• Put more of the Philadelphia review in your own words
• "Tom Breiham of Stereogum observed" → "Breiham of Stereogum observed"
• "said it was" → "said the visual was"
• Place the video accolades at the end of this section

Live performances

• Retitle to Live performances and media usage, making the next section the bottom para
• "to some Jackson's" → "to some of Jackson's"
• Put more of the ABC News quote into your own words
• Img looks good!
• "Her performance at" → "Jackson's performance at"
• The location of Seattle is not sourced nor is the Rock Witchu Tour

The ref for the Rock Witchu tour is [101] Alex ^{reach me!} 02:17, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

• "in the United Kingdom." → "in the UK."
• "cargo pants and combat boots;" → "cargo pants, and combat boots;" and introduce by its full name of the Number Ones, Up Close and Personal tour

Usage

• Merge with the above section and make this only one para since it is so short

Mmm, is it OK to keep this section separated from the previous one? It has little to do with live performances so I don't think they go well together Alex ^{reach me!} 02:17, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

• Pipe Microsoft Theater to Peacock Theater
• Start a new sentence at Ciara and Tinashe's tribute

Track listings and formats

• Good

Credits and personnel

• Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between credits and personnel

Charts

Weekly charts

• Pipe Nielsen BDS to Broadcast Data Systems
• Wikilink SNEP to itself
• Pipe Polish Airplay Chart to Polish music charts

Year-end charts

• Remove wikilink on Nielsen BDS

Decade-end charts

• Good

Certifications

• Good

Release history

• Good

References

• Fix all of the dead links using the tool
• Cite Billboard Books as work instead on ref 4
• WP:OVERLINK of Radio & Records on ref 10
• ARIA → Australian Recording Industry Association on ref 11 with the wikilink
• Pipe Vulture to Vulture (website) on ref 31
• Remove or replace The Tech on ref 37 per WP:RSSM
• Pipe Grammy.com to Grammy Awards on ref 38
• WP:OVERLINK of AllMusic on ref 39
• Cite Neumu as publisher instead on ref 40
• Author-link David Browne (journalist) on ref 41
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 42
• Wikilink Teen People on ref 69 per MOS:LINK2SECT
• Black Entertainment Television → BET on ref 75 with the wikilink
• What is DVD MG on ref 84 and why is it reliable?
• Pipe uDiscover Music to Universal Music Group on ref 85
• ShondaLand → Shondaland with the wikilink on ref 92
• WP:OVERLINK of BBC Online on ref 93
• I'm not sure about the reliability of Theybf.com on ref 104 since it is a gossip website?
• Fix MOS:CAPS issues with refs 138 and 165
• Add a publisher to ref 142
• WP:OVERLINK of Music Week on ref 149
• Wikilink Google Books on ref 173, however why is this not cited for any of the multiple other refs using Google Books URLs?
• Pipe Airplay Monitor to Billboard Radio Monitor on ref 177
• WP:OVERLINK of Fnac on ref 182

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed, this went quicker than I expected! --K. Peake 19:10, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Kyle Peake Hi! I will be starting fixing the issues this week. Alex ^{reach me!} 23:52, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Kyle Peake All done. See above. :) Alex ^{reach me!} 02:17, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

• 11JORN Thanks for the response, although there are still some changes that need to be implemented. You need to add more info to audio sample, first sentence of reception should use the song's title, change lead part about later added to using "it", change to the UK in live performances and wikilink SNEP to itself. --K. Peake 17:18, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Kyle Peake Done. Please check and let me know if I missed something. :) Alex ^{reach me!} 21:21, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Still, RiSA is the only certifier and it does not hold any record of Janet Jackson. What is CAIA and is MI2N reliable? dxneo (talk) 17:35, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• 11JORN ✓ Pass now for this perfect response, massive congrats especially for having brought it to GA after two reviews! --K. Peake 17:05, 26 August 2024 (UTC)