Talk:Allan Quatermain
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Connery Image
editI... don't think that Sean Connery (as incredible as he may be) is the best picture to represent Quatermain. Specifically, because that movie was so awful, and he was certainly NOT the definitive interpretation.
- That movie wans't awful. It wasn't five star entertainment, but it was alright. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.244.120 (talk) 02:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
I second the removal of the Connery image. Apart from anything else, that Quatermain character is from a loose adaptation of a work simply based on the 'real' Quatermain of Haggard's books. i.e. that character is not within driving distance of anything canonical.-86.131.210.98 21:54, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
- (That was me, not signed in. -Zepheriah 21:55, 6 May 2007 (UTC))
I thrd the removal of the Connery image. The character's most iconic image in pop culture history would be that of Stuart Granger from the Solomon's Mines film...but I would prefer no image at all. Sterlingjones (talk) 21:22, 23 September 2008 (UTC) I would say that Seán Connery's portrayal of Allan Quatermain was poor in that he didn't even pronounce the name correctly. He kept saying Quartermain !!- should be Kway ter main Domnal5 (talk) 13:12, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Sean Connery is just one image of the Quatermain character. Even if he is not the real Haggard character, at least he is a legitimate Quatermain. If someone has a more accurate Haggardesque Quartermain, I would certainly agree that it should be displayed first in the article. However, I don't agree that the Connery image should be removed from the article. Ctatkinson 22:09, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed. The Quatermain in other works section is an entirely appropriate place for this image, which I have reduced a bit in size to make it less conspicuous. Mdiamante (talk) 16:20, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
What are some intertextual references in Allan Quartermain?
Drug Addict?
editWasn't Quartermain portraied as a drug addict in some cases? Anyway, it appears that more about the character of this fictional character might help this article. --217.91.92.94 17:31, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
He was in the Moore graphic novels. I suspect that many would not consider this portrayal canon. Cdixon 22:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
He was a taduki (fictional African hallucinogen) user in Haggard's works. Kuralyov 05:50, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
General Hospital
editI'm unsure of the specifics, but i'm pretty sure that in the soap opera General Hospital there is a prominent character named Allen Quartermain. Perhaps some reference should be made to him?--The Sporadic Update 07:14, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
No, because it's Allan Q U A T E R MAIN, not Alan Quartermain. Notice the lack of an r in that first syllable. it is NOT "quarter," but "quater. As in kwayter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.166.118.115 (talk) 02:27, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
NPOV
editKuralyov, tell us why you added an NPOV tag to the article? Ctatkinson 03:00, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
- Since Kuralyov has not commented on his NPOV tag, I shall remove it. -- Ctatkinson 01:32, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- There are an abundance of blatantly NPOV words, cf Allan Quatermain has suffered greatly at the hands of modern writers who have used Haggard's fictional character to fulfill their own fantasies; The use of the character Allan Quatermain by other authors in ways that would have dismayed Haggard is impossible to prevent; and None of the above works portray Haggard's Quatermain accurately in age, appearance, or character. Until these statements and the passages they precede are changed I will not allow the NPOV tag to be removed and if you continue to remove it I will notify admins. Kuralyov 05:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- Hey, you added an NPOV tag without comments and, when asked to explain your position, you stayed silent for almost 10 days. Now that you've woken up, you come running in like a bull in a china shop and start making threats??? If you didn't already know it, WP is a collaborative effort... -- Ctatkinson 11:02, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- There are an abundance of blatantly NPOV words, cf Allan Quatermain has suffered greatly at the hands of modern writers who have used Haggard's fictional character to fulfill their own fantasies; The use of the character Allan Quatermain by other authors in ways that would have dismayed Haggard is impossible to prevent; and None of the above works portray Haggard's Quatermain accurately in age, appearance, or character. Until these statements and the passages they precede are changed I will not allow the NPOV tag to be removed and if you continue to remove it I will notify admins. Kuralyov 05:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Vandalism
editHave tried to undo vandalism (multiple entries on 6/11/08), but couldn't get beyond 2 levels of undo! Perhaps someone more competent can give it a go. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.44.138.208 (talk) 23:27, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Edit
editA comment about Philip Jose Farmer's use of Quatermain was NPOV, so I revised the wording to make it more neutral and less opinionated. Jessnevins (talk) 19:45, 11 December 2008 (UTC)jessnevins
Vandalism
editThe article sys that Alan was a big vagina hunter?
In the paragraph Film and television incarnations, actress Irene Handl is included as having played Quatermain. Is that correct or vandalism? --Studio 126 (talk) 06:07, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Vandalism. There is no reference to Handl playing Quatermain on her IMDB page. I have removed the entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.125.195.147 (talk) 04:39, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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Allan Quatermain stories
editThe Chronology table lists stories in the Allan Quatermain series and overlapping series --two series now called Ayesha and Umslopogaas in the section heading. Two of the listings need attention:
- c. 1830s – c. 1840 The Ghost Kings 1908
- 1878 "Black Heart and White Heart - A Zulu Idyll", included in the collection Elissa 1896
If I understand correctly, Quatermain does not appear in these stories, but we do not yet cover them by annotations --currently (*) for Ayesha and (**) for Umslopogaas-- nor in the text, sections 2. Series and 3. Chronology. Both are Zulu stories.
Are there other stories listed here, currently without annotation, in which none of Quatermain, Ayesha(*), and Umslopogaas(**) appears?
Perhaps we should identify all Zulu stories, regardless whether Quatermain or Umslopogaas appears. ("Zulu Nation" is one series at ISFDB, now as containing four novels that we list. There Ghost Kings is a novel in no series --not Quatermain, Ayesha, or Zulu Nation-- and "Black Heart and White Heart" is a novella in no series.)