Talk:Allies (band)

Seminal?

I can't seem to convince Mel Etitis that SCB was a seminal band. I suggest that we leave the claim until the point can be discussed by domain experts. --Walter Görlitz 18:55, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Your attempts to convince me have consisted wholly of your unsupported claim. "Domain experts" (whatever that means) are irreelevant; Wikipedia demands that you demonstrate such claims. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 19:03, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Whatever you blokes decide, can you keep the discussion here and please resist edit warring on the article? If the reverting starts up again I'm protecting this page, and giving serious thought to treating you both to, at the very least, some very unfunny funny looks. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 14:40, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

As a Former Radio Guy, 1977-1995, Sweet Comfort Bands 1st album was the 33rd release on Maranatha Records, HS-033 - Sweet Comfort - Sweet Comfort Band [1977] and lent itself to several #1 hits on the christian charts, including It's So Fine (Soul Tune Boogie), Childish Things, Somebody Loves You and Get Ready. Seminal yes! No one sounded like Sweet Comfort, infact in 1979 they headlined "Chicagofest" with WYCA radio. I introduced them, and they blew the crowd away. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jimmcnicholas (talk • contribs) 15:37, 6 February 2006.

1. Wikipedia policy is involved her, so leaving the article with "seminal" in place but no sources or references isn't really acceptable. I hope, though, that the issue has been sorted out by the kind intervention of Ngb.
2. "Seminal" doesn't mean "popular" or "successful" or "distinctive" or even "unique", but it was nice of Jimmcnicholas to open a Wikipedia account simply to leave the above message... --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:23, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

In a post to the Jesus Music discussion group on Yahoo! Groups. Harold Smith wrote

Here is what Mark Allen Powell wrote of them in the Encyclopedia of Contemporary Christian Music (ISBN 1565636791)

Sweet Comfort Band is remembered as one of the most musically original and proficient Christian groups to come out of the Jesus movement.... Sweet Comfort Band began with a jazz-rock fusion sound and gradually moved toward a more formulaic mixture of straightforward rock and MOR (cf. Chicago). Sweet Comfort Band was probably the most exciting band in Christian Music when they were at their peak in the late '70s and continued to be one of the brighter spots for the scene during the doldrums of the early '80s.

The group left an impressive legacy: two of the finest Christian rock albums in history [Self-titled and Breakin' the Ice] ; one more (Hold On Tight) that is excellent; and three that, while formulaic and predictable, at least manage to deliver the expected goods more competently than is sometimes the cast.

Not conclusive proof, but there is a discussion still onging. Most members, many experts on the topic and the era, feel that seminal is an apt word to describe the band. --Walter Görlitz 17:26, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

"seminal [...] 2. highly original, influential, and important." Note that this is a conjunction. The claims above are to the first of the three components only. Moreover, that they began as jazz-rockers and became more formulaic doesn't exactly confirm that judgement, as jazz-rock had been around since the late 1960s/early 1970s. In fact, the claim about jazz-rock isn't borne out by the Wikipedia article that you wrote on them. "Most members" of what, incidentally? --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 00:07, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

members of the Jesus Music Yahoo! group. The group is made up of musicians from many of the bands of that era, authors on the topic, and other fans and experts. --Walter Görlitz 20:28, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Not Notable?

Why would someone question the notability of this band? Nathanbrisk (talk) 23:03, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Because as the article is written, the criteria in WP:BAND aren't mentioned? --Rodhullandemu 23:13, 15 October 2008 (UTC)