Talk:Alphabet murders

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This page should not become an advertisement for author Cheri Farnsworth's website and/or book on these murders. The term "Official Site for...", which at one point appeared as the link to her website, gives her book and website undue authority. Official by whose authority? There is no such thing as an "official site" for a series of unsolved murders. Citing to Ms. Farnsworth's sources might be appropriate, but claiming that her website is somehow "official" is both inaccurate and inappropriate. 38.98.88.22 (talk) 02:31, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Cheri Farnsworth (talk) 12:37, 28 August 2010 (UTC)I understand, and that's fine (removing official), but why, under "Alphabet Killer" (the movie), for example, in Wikipedia, can the creators of the movie use the phrase "'Official' Web Site for" on their link to the movie's web site? By the authority of what 'office' are they deemed 'official'? The Alphabet Killer movie is pure fiction which was loosely based on the case and caused much confusion over the actual facts; while the book is based entirely on facts of the case (to set the record straight); and it has been approved and endorsed by the *lead* investigator of this ongoing case who said he is "going to suggest that the detectives working the Double I's read [the] book to gain a good overview of the cases." Cheri Farnsworth (talk) 12:37, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

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Don't believe crimes should be glorified. ~Gay Unicorn~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gayunicorn (talk • contribs) 21:26, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

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This is hardly glorification. EvilMuppet 21:30, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

this is actually important that we document crimes, if someone knows something about the crime that the police dont know they can come forward,

Joseph Naso

Note Joseph Naso, who has been charged with killings of Roxene Roggasch, Carmen Colon, Pamela Parsons and Tracy Tofoya. A very odd coincidence if he is not the guy. The Carmen Colon whom his is charged with killing was not the one listed in Rochester, but was another person of the same name. He had lived in Rochester at one time,and had relatives in the area at the time of Alphabet killings, apparently.

Hypercallipygian (talk) 21:42, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Correct, the victim Carmen Colon in California and the victim Carmen Colon in New York are two different murder victims. Naso lived in Rochester at the time of the Alphabet Murders, was a professional photographer, and traveled extensively between New York and California. He is a "person of interest" in both the Alphabet Murders in New York and the Zodiac killer murders in California, and was in the correct areas at the times of both sets of murders.BDUAres 18:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

It's VERY important that this article not imply Naso's guilt in either case. He is a living person who has pleaded not guilty to the murders he has been charged with. Let him have his day in court. I just added "alleged" in one place in the article. Let's be careful.

Also, if we're drawing comparisons between the California murders and the Alphabet Murders, then it needs to be NPOV. Only stating the similarities between the cases is prejudicial. It is equally important to note the obvious differences, that the victims in NY were 10 & 11 year old girls, but the victims in CA were women who worked as prostitutes. Those are very different patterns. Again, Naso is still living and has not been found guilty. We have to play it this way until the courts find otherwise. Dcs002 (talk) 06:54, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

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Deleted names

Recently, the names and locations of the murder victims were removed. The rationale given was "sensitivity." This seems a little strange to me, considering that Wikipedia is not censored and the murders happened nearly forty years ago. At the same time, it doesn't seem like the article is especially incomplete without the specific names of the victims. I'm not familiar with the topic, so I won't restore the information, but I did want to bring it up here in case it turns out that the issue would warrant discussion. — Ƶ§œš¹ _{[ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ]} 03:24, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

On the contrary, the names of the victims are extremely relevant to the case, possibly to a degree not seen before or since. Reliable sources routinely report the victims' names, so I don't see 'sensitivity' as an issue. Powers ^T 02:41, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Bold format of victim names is removed, names of victims probably should be mentioned only as initials but I see above that users have strong (although opposite) opinions so I'll wait with such edit ATM. SpeedyGonsales 14:46, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

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Alphabet Murders

While reading this article, I noticed that one important fact was not included. I added the information about the "List of 10" because I believe that is an important discovery made by authorities to be able convict Joseph Naso of the crimes. This discovery was a handwritten note that was believed to be where the bodies were hidden. If I had to research this topic by just using Wikipedia, I would want to know that piece of information. Another thing I noticed that this article included many resources and citations, which was really good to show that the information is in fact correct. Overall, this article had credible information and was able to keep on track with useful information and not include unnecessary information. The topic was kept with very little to no runaways. Amcg23 (talk) 04:51, 5 April 2018 (UTC)Amcg23

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Name spelling wrong!

i am Michelle Manza s second cousin. Her name is spelled wrong! Please fix it! I have her death certificate! Thanks🤍 2603:7081:1706:692E:F0D1:DA7D:56F8:22D7 (talk) 00:01, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

ITS MICHELLE MANZA

Please Ginny Elizabeth (talk) 00:07, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Her gravestone, plus periodicals, and other literature, spell the surname as Maenza.--Kieronoldham (talk) 00:10, 4 April 2023 (UTC)