Talk:Amazon Air

2019 Launch - Amazon Air Wilmington, OH.

Airline

Please note that Amazon Air is a brand used by Amazon, it is not a licensed airline which is why its branded operation is flown by airlines that are licencsed. MilborneOne (talk) 16:45, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

@MilborneOne: I am not sure that I understand why Amazon Air is being treated differently than other airline brands. When adding the info-box, I modeled it after Delta Connections's page. In its opening sentence: "Delta Connection is a regional airline brand name for Delta Air Lines, under which a number of individually owned regional airlines operate short- and medium-haul routes". Amazon does exactly the same thing with Amazon Air. There are many other pages with use the airline infobox, yet they are brands with third-party operators actually flying the planes: American Eagle (airline brand), United Express, OneJet, etc. Stinger20 (talk) 01:06, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

See NewLeaf; the company essentially chartered planes and sold tickets. That, in my opinion, is how this page should be modelled. Garretka (talk) 02:29, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Agree and it shows that the Delta Connection etc articles should not use the infobox either. MilborneOne (talk) 13:42, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Number of Aircrafts suspect

The numbers of Aircrafts are suspect. The table says there are 55 B767 but next row says altogether only 45. 45 would be in line with this source [1]. At the end of the table it is mentioned that there are altogether 77 Aircrafts. At the Infobox it is mentioned: Fleet size = 85, additional 8 on top. Could someone please check this, who has access to the source? --GodeNehler (talk) 16:22, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Fleet

I added the 767-200 back to the fleet. Planespotters only captures airplanes in the Amazon livery. The 767-200s are contracted to Amazon in the same way most the 767-300s, they're just not in Amazon livery. —Cliffb (talk) 23:44, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Newark

Looks like they aren't building a Prime Air base in EWR anymore. Should there be a new highlight called "Cancelled" in the destinations table?

Source: https://www.supplychaindive.com/news/amazon-air-newark-hub-fallout-logistics-fulfillment-stressors/627102/ 2600:8800:6015:2200:2856:87C:80E0:4136 (talk) 16:33, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Callsign

From the FAA, the Prime Air callsign is owned by a company called Prime Air, Inc., which is based in Octerville, MA, a city which does not exist. ICAO DOC 8585 (which as far as I can tell is the ICAO version of FAA JO 7340.2) also includes reference to Octerville, MA. I think the callsign should likely be removed as it is not owned by Amazon. Ralphusmcgee (talk) 16:15, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

I'm soon going to remove the reference to the "Prime Air" callsign -- can confirm: the Aircraft operate under the lessor's callsign. Listen to the KDEN Tower West Rwy 07/25 archive from Jul 16 2024, 1730-1800z. Aircraft in amazon livery takes off during that time toward the end of the window -- controller adresses it as "Air Transport 3343". It is using the callsign of ATN who owns (and operates) the aircraft for Amazon. Some sites like Planefinder erroneously state the callsign is "amazon" but it isn't -- and it certainly isn't "prime air".

I just listened to the tower frequency live while watching the departures via ADSB so I can personally confirm this. Archive recording of ATC can be found here: https://www.liveatc.net/archive.php?m=kden1_twr_west (16 July 2024 ~ 1756z) Itmaybeokay (talk) 18:08, 16 July 2024 (UTC)