Talk:American Heritage University of Southern California

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Looking at WP:RS I see the following:

• Self-published or questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, especially in articles about themselves, without the requirement that they be published experts in the field, so long as:

1. the material is not unduly self-serving;
2. it does not involve claims about third parties (such as people, organizations, or other entities);
3. it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the subject;
4. there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity;
5. the article is not based primarily on such sources.

With this in mind, certain portions of this article are acceptable.--S. Rich (talk) 20:00, 28 December 2010 (UTC)20:01, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Heritage University -- suspended corporate status??

In doing a search on the California Secretary of State website for "Heritage University" four related results come up. The data covers:

Entity Number, Date Filed, Status, Entity Name, Agent for Service of Process:

• C1741634 03/30/1994 ACTIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE UNIVERSITY JOUNG SOOK KIM
• C2969518 01/26/2007 ACTIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE UNIVERSITY FOUNDATION TONY B.E. OGIAMIEN
• C2620486 12/15/2003 SUSPENDED AMERICAN HERITAGE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TONY B E OGIAMIEN
• C2507731 03/26/2003 CANCELED HERITAGE UNIVERSITY FOUNDATION, INC. GERRICK DRUTCHAS

The middle two, with Mr. Ogiamen, have San Bernardino addresses (in keeping with the article). Given that the school website uses the 2003 date, it is likely that the school is operating with the suspended corporate status. --S. Rich (talk) 20:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

You may be right; or they may be operating as a foundation under the 2007 format (given that the page originally talked about "the American Heritage Foundation"). Either way, that's original research. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:26, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

I certainly appreciate the caveat about OR, which is why I did not publish any finding in the article and simply put this heads-up in the talkpage. At the same time, I am concerned about WP:V and how WP wants to avoid known falsehoods (WP:FALSE). With these factors in mind, the mention that AHUSC was founded in 2003 and is . . . incorporated does not pass the RS test. But rather edit the article based on my discovery, I invite other (more diligent) editors to delete the info. --S. Rich (talk) 00:13, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

The verification process has some validity but I want to explain issues raised here that are not quite related to AHUSC. First, American Heritage University owned by Joung Sook Kim is only a corporation, not a functional institution of higher learning. But Kim raised issues with name similarity and AHUSC was forced to change its name.Re:C1741634; Heritage University Foundation by Gerrick Drutchas is not quite the same as American Heritage University Foundation. Re: 2507731:(UNIVERSITY) is the difference. So there is no dubious claim. Third, it is accurate to say that the universsity is operating under a suspended corporate status however AHUSC is presently processing a revivor with Franchise Tax Board. This information is verifiable. That will translate to the removal from the suspension list.[[Austen K. Oghuma (talk) 21:33, 30 December 2010 (UTC)Austen]] I want to draw your attention to the fact that American Heritage University of Southern California status has been restored in full. Both the corporation, American Heritage University Foundation and American Heritage University of Southern California, are no longer suspended.You can verify this information on the California Secretary of State website.Austen K. Oghuma (talk) 18:45, 14 January 2011 (UTC) Austen]]

Accreditation

Even by its own admission, it seems that AHUSC is unaccredited (http://www.amheritageuniv.net/school-information/approvals-and-recognitions.html "AHUSC is currently seeking national accreditation."). Shouldn't this be explicitly mentioned in the article? (I'm a bit reluctant to do that myself, as I'm not too familiar with US university accreditation.) --Brindt (talk) 13:47, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

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