This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the American decline article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoliticsWikipedia:WikiProject PoliticsTemplate:WikiProject Politicspolitics articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Economics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Economics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.EconomicsWikipedia:WikiProject EconomicsTemplate:WikiProject EconomicsEconomics articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject History, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the subject of History on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.HistoryWikipedia:WikiProject HistoryTemplate:WikiProject Historyhistory articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Anthropology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Anthropology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.AnthropologyWikipedia:WikiProject AnthropologyTemplate:WikiProject AnthropologyAnthropology articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Culture, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of culture on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CultureWikipedia:WikiProject CultureTemplate:WikiProject Cultureculture articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Demographics, a project which is currently considered to be inactive.DemographicsWikipedia:WikiProject DemographicsTemplate:WikiProject DemographicsDemographics articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Futures studies, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Futures studies on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Futures studiesWikipedia:WikiProject Futures studiesTemplate:WikiProject Futures studiesfutures studies articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Sociology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of sociology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SociologyWikipedia:WikiProject SociologyTemplate:WikiProject Sociologysociology articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Technology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of technology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.TechnologyWikipedia:WikiProject TechnologyTemplate:WikiProject TechnologyTechnology articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject International relations, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of International relations on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.International relationsWikipedia:WikiProject International relationsTemplate:WikiProject International relationsInternational relations articles
Latest comment: 8 months ago5 comments4 people in discussion
This article leads by describing Noam Chomsky as a political activist. This is not a neutral description, and I would favor describing him as a historian or cognitive scientist, since both titles are consistent with his professional areas of study while at MIT and The University of Arizona. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.70.173.36 (talk) 02:36, 7 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
Oops, I didn't see this talk post before I put "historian" back [1]. I agree that "historian" is a better description. In this case, he's being cited as an historian. And true, his Wiki page does list "historian" before "political activist". My two cents. signed, Willondon (talk) 15:40, 20 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
I agree with public intellectual. I think it's important to note that Chomsky has academic qualifications, but I recognize that his commentary on this issue is directed towards the general public, rather than fellow subject matter experts. Thanks very much for the reasoned discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.70.173.36 (talk) 10:49, 27 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
Fellow subject-matter experts? Please read this source for a glimpse into the actual impact Chomsky has on disciplines like political science and academic history.[2]. Scholars in these fields don't even read Chomsky's work -he is essentially ignored.
Chomsky's a linguist with no expertise in any of the subjects he's famous for outside of the Academy. This RS here describes him as "linguist and political activist"[3], and considering there are many other sources using the "political activist" description, the claim of non-neutrality has no merit. Jonathan f1 (talk) 06:36, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
This is somewhat hard, since this topic "American DECLINE" is somewhat vague, but I'd say that (as far as your addition) we should stick to sources that talk about demographic change as a perceived decline, rather than using sources about demographic change for Original Research to say that people might feel this way. (GMF is not a RS, it is a think-tank.) Your addition is likely correct, (I'm sure the WASPs might feel that way) but we need sources that explicitly say that. ---Avatar317(talk)01:22, 22 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 12 days ago1 comment1 person in discussion
The article says "According to American economist Scott Rozelle and researcher Natalie Hell, "China looks a lot more like 1980s Mexico or Turkey than 1980s Taiwan or South Korea. No country has ever made it to high-income status with high school attainment rates below 50 percent. With China's high school attainment rate of 30 percent, the country could be in grave trouble." By comparison, US high school attainment rate is 91.1 percent according to the latest census."
,_early_1900s,_Central_Africa,_Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo,_Pende_people,_wood,_fiber_-_Cleveland_Museum_of_Art_-_DSC08700.JPG){kind=small}
