Talk:Anand Satyanand

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CrypticBacon 01:01, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

QSO

The Governor General is not made a QSO until after their mandate is over, so why is he wearing it in his offical portrait ? Dowew 21:06, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

He has it because he's the "Principal Campanion" of the Queen's Service Order --Lholden 01:01, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Verbose sentence

I am probably missing something on the intentions of the editors when "Nominated to The Queen" was replaced by the more verbose "Appointed by HM Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of New Zealand, on the advice of". Aside from the inline "HM" and the unnecessary "Queen of New Zealand" (both of which are immediately noticeable from context, and I'm pretty sure inline styles are discouraged), the new formulation detracts from the succinct and matter-of-fact style the biography used to have.

I think it should be changed back, and think "Nominated to The Queen..." would be the best solution. 202.89.155.157 23:11, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I've edited the sentence to remove "Queen of New Zealand" --Lholden 23:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that's much better. -- Avenue 00:21, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Silvia Cartwright

An editor keeps removing the "Dame" before her name in the info box and the succession box. If you go back to previous GG pages Cratwrights has "Sir" Michael Hardie Boys and his refers to "Dame" Catherine Tizard and "Dame" Silvia Cartwright, so this edit is going against precedent. Won't accept a revert so hopefully we can reach a comprise/consensus here. Mattlore (talk) 22:04, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

But her name doesn't start with "dame". And the other commonwealth realms' governors general don't use the titles either. Therequiembellishere (talk) 22:09, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the idea that the titles be removed. Wikipedia in general has a weakness of presenting fanciful ideas as though they were the way things are now/for real/at the moment, even though usually those stories describe what happens in theory---things like titles, articles on topics of little practical relevance etc etc. WP needs a major shakeup in that area and needs a down-to-earth "no b/s" policy.

I don't think anyone with a knighthood ever uses "Sir/Dame" in day-to-day affairs anyway. Keep them in the bio intros so we know they are knights but in line with normal Wikipedia practice they shouldn't be referred to as Sir in the body. 118.90.51.62 (talk) 11:53, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Small language tidy up

I have tidied up some language to make it clearer and to flow more easily. I hope anyway :) hypotaxis (talk) 09:19, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

I have removed the II from Elizabeth, as she is the first Queen Elizabeth of New Zealand, not the second. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.73.57.60 (talk) 08:45, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Her title, however, is "Elizabeth the Second" in all of her realms.--Ibagli rnbs mbs (Talk) 23:10, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Edits, 14 March 2009

Hi, I was the one who made edit 277116659. The objections I stated in the edit summary were that:—

• Most of the text dealt with honours cruft rather than any actual work; and
• The New Year message is more suited to the article on the GG's office itself, and anyway is standard procedure for heads of state

Obviously this meant cutting out a lot of the current text, which IMO is not necessary and does not add towards understanding Satyanand's significance as GG.

Regarding honours: The number 2 is equivalent to 1+1, 3-1, 39590-39588, etc., but to describe the concept of "two" only a brief mention is sufficient if it's to be included at all. The point being that there are very many possibilities. Same goes for his honours—he has been given many of them, often in the course of his GG-related duties. (E.g. that a member of royalty is patron to some organization is not in the wider scheme of things notable at all.) The fact that he is GG should be sufficient to explain he holds honours, and does not need to be made explicit.

On top of that, there are inconsequential details which are never included in any other article. What makes the Coroner's Bill significant otherwise? It is merely another collection of words on a paper.

My view is, that if removing certain objectionable (to me) portions of the text makes it significantly shorter, then "so be it" since quality > quantity of content.

118.90.61.58 (talk) 06:55, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Personal Wealth

Does anyone know what his personal wealth is? The C of E (talk) 22:08, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Not sure - it's not been published anywhere.--Lholden (talk) 22:45, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

I can't think of any reason for it to be published. As a successful barrister, Satyanand's income was probably higher than it was as a judge, but judges are well paid. No doubt his income as Governor General is a good one, but see here that he has decided to forego an increase for this year. Moonraker2 (talk) 23:35, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Relevancy is always a tricky question - it's certainly relevant that the Prime Minister is worth around $20m from his days as a foreign currency trader. When it comes to the Gov-Gen, I fail to see why it's relevant, but then that's my personal opinion. If there's a verifiable source that meets the WP requirements, then there isn't an issue. --Lholden (talk) 00:15, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Satyanand's income as Governor General is sure to be a matter of public record, but unlikely there would be a reliable source for his wealth - in my experience, lawyers have more sense than to reveal such things when they don't have to. Moonraker2 (talk) 00:20, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

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