Talk:Anchiornithidae

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Liaoningovenator belongs here

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In the phylogenetic section of the Liaoningovenator paper, Shen et al. (2017) found it to be the sister taxon to Eosinopteryx. Even though the paper does not identify this clade as Anchiornithinae, the branch of the troodontid tree does also include Anchiornis and Xiaotingia. Below is from the troodontid article:

Shen et al. (2017a) explored troodontid phylogeny using a modified version of the Tsuihiji et al. (2014) analysis.^[1] It was in turn based on data published by Gao et al. (2012), a slightly modified version of the Xu et al. (2011) analysis^[2], focusing on advanced troodontids. A simplified version is shown below.^[3]

Deinonychosauria

Dromaeosauridae

Troodontidae

Sinovenator

	Eosinopteryx

	Liaoningvenator

	Anchiornis

	Xiaotingia

Talos

Mei

IGM 100/140

	Linhevenator

	Philovenator

Troodon

	Saurornithoides

	Zanabazar

These animals were placed in a clade by Xu et al. (2016) – admittedly they did not assigned them to any family. If Liaoningovenator was found to be part of the Anchiornithinae section of Troodontidae, I do not understand why this genus is being removed.--4444hhhh (talk) 01:07, 9 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

I'm not sure this article should even exist. Sure, it's recovered as a clade in some phylogenies, but Anchiornithidae is not registered in Zoobank, nor is there a proper diagnosis for it. Lythronaxargestes (talk) 22:00, 11 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

References

^ Tsuihiji, T.; Barsbold, R.; Watabe, M.; Tsogtbaatar, K.; Chinzorig, T.; Fujiyama, Y.; Suzuki, S. (2014). "An exquisitely preserved troodontid theropod with new information on the palatal structure from the Upper Cretaceous of Mongolia". Naturwissenschaften. 101: 131–142. doi:10.1007/s00114-014-1143-9. PMID 24441791.
^ Gao, C.; Morschhauser, E. M.; Varricchio, D. J.; Liu, J.; Zhao, B. (2012). Farke, Andrew A (ed.). "A Second Soundly Sleeping Dragon: New Anatomical Details of the Chinese Troodontid Mei long with Implications for Phylogeny and Taphonomy". PLoS ONE. 7 (9): e45203. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0045203. PMC 3459897. PMID 23028847.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)
^ Cai-zhi Shen; Bo Zhao; Chun-ling Gao; Jun-chang Lü; Martin Kundrát (2017). "A New Troodontid Dinosaur (Liaoningvenator curriei gen. et sp. nov.) from the Early Cretaceous Yixian Formation in Western Liaoning Province". Acta Geoscientica Sinica. 38 (3): 359–371. doi:10.3975/cagsb.2017.03.06.

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[Gobivenator-1] Tsuihiji, T.; Barsbold, R.; Watabe, M.; Tsogtbaatar, K.; Chinzorig, T.; Fujiyama, Y.; Suzuki, S. (2014). "An exquisitely preserved troodontid theropod with new information on the palatal structure from the Upper Cretaceous of Mongolia". Naturwissenschaften. 101: 131–142. doi:10.1007/s00114-014-1143-9. PMID 24441791.

[Mei2012-2] Gao, C.; Morschhauser, E. M.; Varricchio, D. J.; Liu, J.; Zhao, B. (2012). Farke, Andrew A (ed.). "A Second Soundly Sleeping Dragon: New Anatomical Details of the Chinese Troodontid Mei long with Implications for Phylogeny and Taphonomy". PLoS ONE. 7 (9): e45203. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0045203. PMC 3459897. PMID 23028847.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)

[3] Cai-zhi Shen; Bo Zhao; Chun-ling Gao; Jun-chang Lü; Martin Kundrát (2017). "A New Troodontid Dinosaur (Liaoningvenator curriei gen. et sp. nov.) from the Early Cretaceous Yixian Formation in Western Liaoning Province". Acta Geoscientica Sinica. 38 (3): 359–371. doi:10.3975/cagsb.2017.03.06.

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