Talk:Ancient Semitic-speaking peoples

Latest comment: 7 months ago by Westwind273 in topic Proposal to rename article

Meluhha

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The article seems to describe Meluhha as a Semitic-speaking colony of Babylonia but the linked article (stub) on Meluhha says that Meluhha most likely was identical to the Indus Valley Civilization. I suggest removing the mentioning of Meluhha here. Helenuh (talk) 03:28, 27 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

Balance and comprehensiveness

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The text focuses more attention to NWS, seeming to turn to them in each section.

The article does not mention the extensive north Arabian epigraphic record, barely mentions Eithio Semitic and Modern South Arabian, gives very little detail on Epigraphic South Arabian languages, peoples and polities and its presentation of Middle Aramaic evidence is misleading.

Terminological Accuracy

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The article does not distinguish ethnic, linguistic, geographic and political divisions.

It does not define the evidential basis of the statements made (e.g. archaeological vs. written records, local vs. external records).

The narrative of emergence and spread of the languages is reductive and out of date. Furthermore, highly speculative hypotheses are presented as facts (such as origins and directions of spreads, ethnicities of migrants)

These distinctions would add little more than modifiers to the text and would not make the article overly detailed.

Ideology

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There are ideological stereotypes interfering with the divisions (e.g. conflating the Canaanite groups/languages west of the Jordan into Hebrew/Israelite and ignoring Semitic Philistine inscriptions).

Latter history

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The last date is not correct !! It must be corrected that in the Byzantines and Sassanids period the Aramaic language was not spoken, the Sasanian Empire included what is known as “lakhmid,” while the Byzantines were allied with the “Ghassanids” to correct both the Ghassanids and the Lakhmins are Arabs and they did not speak the Aramaic language at all! Samlaxcs (talk) 19:19, 1 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Do you have a WP:V source for that? if so feel free to add this to the article. Else it's nothing more than WP:OR I'm afraid. And Aramaic was spoken in the Levant and Iraq well into the islamic era, and if I'm not mistaken I think you're confusing ethnicity for language? ♾️ Contemporary Nomad (💬 Talk) 10:09, 6 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Proposal to rename article

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I think this article should be more properly named simply "Semitic Peoples", similar to the article "Germanic Peoples". I see no reason to use the verbose current title that unnecessarily inserts "ancient" and "speaking". This seems to be an example of pro-Zionist and anti-Arab bias in Wikipedia. --Westwind273 (talk) 20:32, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply