Talk:And the Beat Goes On (The Whispers song)

Requested move 20 March 2017

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The result of the move request was: No consensus to move — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:41, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

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And the Beat Goes On (The Whispers song) → And the Beat Goes On (song) – No other song article exists on Wikipedia under this title. Erpert ^{blah, blah, blah...} 21:41, 20 March 2017 (UTC)--Relisting. Winged Blades ^Godric 17:30, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

• Oppose The Sonny Bono song is also known in some compilation recordings as "And the Beat Goes On" - and was the title of his autobiography, and was the title of the documentary on Sonny and Cher. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:06, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Note the Sonny Bono song article ends with a footnote explaining why it is often miscalled "And..." In ictu oculi (talk) 23:27, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

• Added the hatnote. I was leaning toward support, but... I'll stand neutral on this. "And the Beat Goes On" can be often, if not mistakenly, associated with the Sonny/Bono song. However, as said, there are no other songs of the exact same name. I really, really want to support this, but I reluctantly created And the Beat Goes On (Sonny & Cher song) as redirect. George Ho (talk) 03:02, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
• Oppose. The nomination is based on a common misunderstanding of WP:PTOPIC. The test is not whether there is another article sharing the same title, but whether the title could refer to another topic covered in a Wikipedia article of any title. In this case, there is indeed ambiguity with another topic covered in Wikipedia. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:01, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
• Support. Contrary to the above oppose !votes, the governing guideline here is WP:SONGDAB, which says "unless more than one article about songs of the same name exist, there is no need to disambiguate any further" by adding the artist name. There are no other songs called "And the Beat Goes On" with "And", and songs titled "The Beat Goes On" aren't ambiguous per WP:SMALLDETAILS. The Sonny and Cher song isn't known as "And the Beat Goes On"[1] despite the fact that the phrase itself appears in some of the lyrics, so there's little risk of confusion there that a hat note won't resolve.--Cúchullain ^t/c 21:13, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

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