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GA on hold: Notes for fixes
editI have reviewed this article, and placed it against the standard at WP:WIAGA. The article is well written and well referenced, but I have concern over the following issue:
- Broadness of coverage: There is no information on personal life (outside of track and field). Young life? Parents? Wife and kids? Is there anything out there to help flesh out this part of the article?
If we can get some more info on life outside of Javelin Throwing, and if it can be referenced as well as the rest of the article, I see no reason NOT to pass this as a GA. This hold will remain in place for 7 days. If the fixes cannot be made within that time period, it will be failed and have to be renominated. If you have any questions, or if you want to have me review it again after changes are made, please drop a note at my talk page. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 02:12, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, his personal life is closely tied to athletics, it seems: Both parents are retired athletes, his current girlfriend is an active hurdler. He does not have a wife or kids. I'll see what I can do, but is private life really that relevant? Compare with other GA's like David Beharall. Punkmorten 15:33, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- Even just what you wrote here would be great. It just seemed that something was lacking in terms of completeness. If you have reliable sources that state the above, and add it, I think the article would easily be GA quality. I cannot speak to the reviews that others have done. I only feel that the requirement of broadness of coverage has not been met without some mention of his personal life. If you feel this is inappropriate, you may bring this issue up at WP:GA/R. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 17:25, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
- What's the status here? 7 days is up...IvoShandor 03:45, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, I completely forgot about this! Give me one more day, please. Punkmorten 06:04, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- I will leave it alone for a day, can't guarantee someone else won't fail it. Make sure you contact the original reviewer to see if it met his/her concerns. Thanks IvoShandor 07:20, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- I added a section named "personal life". Is the article pass-worthy now? Punkmorten 09:53, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
- OOPS! Sorry I forgot about this one. The new section is all I was looking for really. This one seems more than adequate. I will Pass the article as a GA now!--Jayron32|talk|contribs 16:31, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
- I added a section named "personal life". Is the article pass-worthy now? Punkmorten 09:53, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
- I will leave it alone for a day, can't guarantee someone else won't fail it. Make sure you contact the original reviewer to see if it met his/her concerns. Thanks IvoShandor 07:20, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, I completely forgot about this! Give me one more day, please. Punkmorten 06:04, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- What's the status here? 7 days is up...IvoShandor 03:45, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- Even just what you wrote here would be great. It just seemed that something was lacking in terms of completeness. If you have reliable sources that state the above, and add it, I think the article would easily be GA quality. I cannot speak to the reviews that others have done. I only feel that the requirement of broadness of coverage has not been met without some mention of his personal life. If you feel this is inappropriate, you may bring this issue up at WP:GA/R. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 17:25, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
GA Reassessment
edit- This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Andreas Thorkildsen/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.
This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force in an effort to ensure all listed Good articles continue to meet the Good article criteria. In reviewing the article, I have found there are a number of issues that need to be addressed.--Jackyd101 (talk) 09:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose): b (MoS):
- The prose is not great. 4/10 at best. It will need a copyedit before it is of the quality required from GAs today. Problems include: 1) A tendency to write in prose list form - prose lists are just bullet points converted into sentences and "glued" together. An example is the first paragraph in "Career". These need to be tidied up substantially, with related material placed together and joined up using words like "and" and "but" to form cogent sentences. 2) "In 2001 he moved to Oslo" - always introduce the person, don't use words like "he" at the start of paragraphs. 3) Avoid cliche and simile, i.e. "On the lighter side" 4) Merge short paragraphs together, especially when they associate chronologically. I'd also consider merging some sections (like 2006-2008).
- The lead is not helpful, failing to adequately introduce the topic. It should be expanded to cover all major aspects of his career in summary form.--Jackyd101 (talk) 09:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Make sure that all references come after puntuation. Otherwise the text breaks up and becomes hard to read.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- Referencing is fine.--Jackyd101 (talk) 09:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- Personal life section needs expanding (for example, almost all of the second paragraph in 2006 belongs in there). It would be good to see more information on his youth, childhood competition and his modelling career and the media speculation about his relationship with the other athelete to name a few areas.--Jackyd101 (talk) 09:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- a (fair representation): b (all significant views):
- It is stable.
- It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
- a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):
- Overall:
- a Pass/Fail:
I will check back in no less than seven days. If progress is being made, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted (such a decision may be challenged through WP:GAR). If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAN again. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you have any questions, and many thanks for all the hard work that has gone into this article thus far. (If you are really busy, let me know and I'll give more time. I need to know however so I can see that someone is interested in addressing these concerns. Regards --Jackyd101 (talk) 09:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- I have tried to address some of the concerns above. Oceanh (talk) 03:38, 2 December 2008 (UTC).
- Thankyou, I think th article is now good enough to pass, although I would warn you that there are still some significant problems: the lead is too short, the awards section is messy and there are still a few prose issues. Nevertheless, this article now qualifies for GA.--Jackyd101 (talk) 09:43, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
One-fingered champion performing for a footballer
edit"whom he had shown the finger the previous day. Thorkildsen has performed as a fashion model for former footballer Martin Dahlin"
Encyclopedic? --Normash (talk) 09:29, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
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