Talk:Andrei Alexandrovich Popov

This is interesting....

I came here thanks to User:Benea linking the Rear-Admiral on Mount Pereleshin. This caught my eye:

Popov had been in correspondence with the director of the Ministry of Navy, Nikolay Karlovich Krabbe, concerning the threat of war with other European powers over the Polish crisis. Popov had advised Krabbe that his squadron would be best positioned in San Francisco due to its good communication links, and would sail from there to raid British and French colonial possession in the event of war.

It's a "given" that the British colonial possessions in question would be the Colonies of Vancouver Island and British Columbia, and it seems there may have been more to Lieut. Pereleshin's mission up the Stikine River than first meets the eye, and suggests there may be more clues about that in any records of the squadron's visit to Sitka/Novo Archangelsk at that time (see Talk:Mount Pereleshin). Also worth noting that, at the time, the British and French fleets were at Esquimalt at the time, under repair from their retreat from Petropavlovsk. Mumblings of war from British Columbia at the time (with Rear-Admiral Baynes and others calling for war to take back Puget Sound) are thrown into further context to me thanks to that bit about the Russian Navy being in the general vicinity ("general" as its about a thousand miles from Esquimalt to San Francisco...); this was in the context of the San Juan Dispute and also connected to the Civil War ("let's take it back while they're distracted elsewhere", essentially). But I'm curious as to which French colonial possessions are being referred to? French Polynesia is all I can think of anywhere within strike range, if effective "strike range" is a few thousand miles. Somewhere there's a book I saw in the SFU library stacks about Russian maritime/naval activity in the North Pacific, relative to British Columbia/Canadian security, I wish I had it now...might have more in it, and on any communications between Sitka and Victoria at this time....(the HBC and RAC had been getting along cordially during the Crimean War, until the fleets showed up anyway).Skookum1 (talk) 13:52, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Popov was called the relentless admiral (this is a direct translation, in Russian it sounds more like hyperactive or even mad) for a good reason. His later career shows plenty of evidence that Popov never hesitated to write pompous reports, propose gargantuan plans and inflate his own achievements (not necessarily bad for an admiral). I highly doubt that he could actually do anything more than what the Brits did in Kamchatka and Solovki - burn down a few barns, rob and rape some unfortunate natives, and then report "another Trafalgar". He did not carry any marines, only the crews. If, indeed, he did wrote the quoted letter, it does not mean that he actually planned to do it all, and mentioning "French possessions" could be just boasting. Don't take it all literally.

That said, Popov did not sail directly from Nikolaevsk to California. He first sailed to Australia, visiting Melbourne on March 2-15 and Sydney on March 19-27 (source in Russian). Then he sailed to California. This route placed him quite close to the French islands. I suspect they did not have any value for his mission, even as an act of psycho terror (who would know if they raided some atoll, and when?). East of Borschov (talk) 18:19, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

PS. I'm putting together an article on Popov's Livadia... Livadia (yacht, 1880) is now live. Which looks more curious, technically and historically, than his round tubs. East of Borschov (talk) 18:19, 6 May 2010 (UTC)