Talk:Andrew Fisher (disambiguation)

Latest comment: 2 years ago by TheBirdsShedTears in topic Requested move 12 February 2022

Requested move 12 February 2022

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 12:03, 22 February 2022 (UTC)Reply


– No clear primary topic, while the Australian politician probably has the most long-term significance he gets less views (1,998) than the footballer Andy Fisher (footballer) (who's name in the infobox is "Andrew Fisher") 2,074, the political activist has 298, the physicist has 39, the Scrabble player has 38, the sprinter has 24, the rugby league player has 10 and the chairman of Shazam has 7[[1]]. Google results seem split between Andrew Fisher (political activist) and the politician and Andrew Fisher (Shazam) is also there. Note that I have chosen to use the nationality as well since Andrew Fisher (MP) appears to be notable having 4 mainspace links outside the DAB namely Aldborough (UK Parliament constituency), Richard Gargrave, Sir Henry Belasyse, 1st Baronet and List of MPs elected to the English parliament in 1593. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:49, 12 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

  • Oppose. Definitely against the idea of moving a national head of government - a highly significant one both locally and to the international labour movement - because a currently active but not especially prominent footballer who doesn't even share the same WP:COMMONNAME happens to get marginally more pageviews. Noting also that Google does adjust due to where you're from, so if you're searching in the UK it is understandable that currently active political activists might turn up more often. Here in Australia, I don't find the activist once until page 6 of results. Frickeg (talk) 03:41, 13 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose. Are people looking for the footballer going to be typing 'Andrew Fisher' into the search bar? He appears to go by just Andy on the club website and his social media accounts. Even if he did go by Andrew, I'm don't think there's a strong argument that the prime minister is not the primary topic. There's obviously no argument with regard to long-term significance. With regard to page views, your sample is over a 19-day period during which around 25% of the footballer's views came on a single day. In the last calendar year the prime minister averaged five times as many daily views as the footballer. Even including the other people by the name, the prime minister is clearly "more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term" as per WP:PTOPIC. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 10:01, 16 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose – the footballer may be the primary topic for Andy Fisher (which currently redirects to this dab page), but I agree that among users searching for "Andrew Fisher" specifically, the politician is likely the primary topic, and in any event his long-term significance is far greater than that of anyone else on the dab page. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:55, 19 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
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