Talk:Andrew Gold

Professionalism?

This article reads as if it were written by Andrew Gold himself. Andrew, if you're out there, have someone else write your Wikipedia article so it doesn't sound like the bio you send to prospective employers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.226.142 (talk) 20:21, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Death?

Not seeing any news reports on his death. Could this be a hoax? -- Man way 19:13, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Nothing at all on Google. Anywhere. I'm reverting temporarily until we can get a reliable report on it. --Manway 19:14, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

His facebook page is covered with RIPs and condolences. But that's not RS. I'm keeping an eye on it and will revert my edit once a source is found. --Manway 19:24, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Andrew's death has been verified by Renee Bodie, a personal friend of Andrew. FYI: Renee is considered a very good source in this situation. She is the current president of Folk Alliance International, the director of the L.A. Acoustic Music Festival and artist's manager for Wendy Waldman, Andrew's former band mate in Bryndle.--FMunroe (talk) 19:50, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

We need a reliable source to verify information. No news services etc. indicate he had died, and so we should presume he is still alive. GiantSnowman 20:29, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Could not agree more. Twitter has mentions of Wikipedia entry, or links to YouTube video. No confirmation. Artaxerxes (talk) 20:40, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

I find the removal of the notation of Andrew's death fascinating. "If we cannot find it on Google within 12 hours, it most not be true." Therefore if we can find it on Google, is it always true? FYI: I did not post the original notice. I only added what I considered reliable information to this discussion page. One may need to be a little bit more well known before their death makes the AP or Reuters news feeds. Maybe I just don't understand the politics of Wikipedia, so in the future I will leave this to those of you who do.--FMunroe (talk) 21:00, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Why not wait until his death is formally announced then, rather than listening to on potentially false rumours? There's no rush for correct information, and WP:CRYSTAL may have some more info for you about this kind of thing. GiantSnowman 21:22, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Reports of the death of Paul McCartney proved greatly exaggerated--long before Google, Facebook, or Twitter came along. Done to sell records, by the way. Artaxerxes (talk) 22:04, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

• RPP requested. GiantSnowman 21:21, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

If it's a hoax, it seems very elaborate. His facebook page has posts apparently from his daughters confirming his death. Not wiki-reliable, but even so. I can't imagine why news agencies have not picked up on this yet, he is easily sufficiently well-known. The only actual sources seem to be blogs. Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:58, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Exactly why I started this. It's probably accurate. But why hasn't Variety or the LA Times picked up on it yet? --Manway 22:01, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Nothing on his official website either, which you presume would be the first to announce the sad news. GiantSnowman 22:02, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

I actually think that family would have higher priorities than updating a website under the circumstances. Active Banana (^bananaphone 23:23, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

True, but one would presume the website is run by his management or whoever. GiantSnowman 23:25, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Even under these circumstances, some of his family have posted on his Facebook page - you'd think someone from a news agency might have contacted them to verify. Bretonbanquet (talk) 23:29, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree it's accurate, but that's not for us to decide. We're not a newspaper, we're a secondary source. We shouldn't be breaking any news stories whatsoever. I'm shocked it hasn't made any news outlets yet, but that's beside the point. We must wait for a reliable source to take the lead. -- But|seriously|folks  22:05, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

F Munroe - how did Renee Bodie verify the information? Was it published anywhere or were you told directly? Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:17, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Nothing at Tmz.com (which first broke the Michael Jackson death, you'll recall). Artaxerxes (talk) 22:41, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Nor at the Los Angeles Times. --22:49, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

I have emailed Renee Bodie in search of a verifiable source. While I consider Renee extremely reliable, I understand it does not fit the Wikipedia standard. Bob Lefsetz has also talked about it today in his newsletter. Renee is also his likely source. Also, I believe Andrew handled all the editing of his own website, so unless someone else has knowledge of his login, it will be sometime before this information gets addressed on his website.--FMunroe (talk) 23:15, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

• This whole incident (repeated addition & removal of death info) is already starting to get attention, so be extra vigilant please. GiantSnowman 22:54, 4 June 2011 (UTC

Just looked at Andrew's webpage. Clicked on "What's New" and the last entry was made in 2005. Guess we won't be looking there for updates. --Manway 23:51, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

An article: http://www.undercover.fm/news/14973-andrew-gold-dies-from-heart-attack-at-59 User:BradOlson

I'm inclined to accept undercover.fm as a RS. I say let's run with it. Thank you, Brad Olsen. --Manway 02:16, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Indeed; it's starting to slowly make Google News, so I guess it's true. GiantSnowman 11:12, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

it's now confirmed on his mother's home page. Emma Louisa — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emma louisa (talk • contribs) 11:55, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

That's the first source I'd say was concrete [1]. Very sad. Bretonbanquet (talk) 12:05, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

If we're leaving the death in the article, could we please provide a source for it? The Mark of the Beast (talk) 18:26, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

It is now on Variety.com. Now I think we definately have confirmation everyone can agree on, right? I think the only reason the mainstream media wasn't on it quickly is because news outlets are so undertaffed these days, that the only things that get on the air in a timely fashion are of major national/international importance - such as snuffing Bin Laden. I know this because I work in one of those understaffed newsrooms. Trista (cannot log in at work)24.176.191.234 (talk) 02:49, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Mother

Per WP:BRD and Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Invalid_criteria, I've removed the addition of his mother's name, which was added in this edit: [2]. JoeSperrazza (talk) 17:17, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't believe that fits here. The fact that his mother is Marni Nixon is relative to his article. Noted Parents are listed in nearly every biographical article. BurienBomber (talk) 17:25, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Gold's mother is quite notable on her own, as was his father. Both have their own articles, which are already linked in this article's Early life section. I really don't see how Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Invalid_criteria has anything to do with this. If you want to argue that the article already discusses who his mother is, so adding her name again as a "survivor" as if this article is an obituary is not needed, I'd agree with you -- Foetusized (talk) 03:28, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Career

The edits which were made so that Neil Diamond, Carly Simon, Leo Sayer and for The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band linked to their own pages by placing double left brackets "[" and double right brackets "]" around them. A superficial edit. EnglishHornDude (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:44, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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