Talk:Andrew Jackson and the slave trade in the United States

Further reading

Page is overloaded but some possible additional sources if anyone is interested:

• Abernethy, Thomas P. (1961). Stephenson, Wendell Holmes; Coulter, E. Merton (eds.). The South in the New Nation, 1789–1819. A History of the South. Vol. IV. Littlefield Fund for Southern History at the University of Texas. Maps by Harold E. Cox. Baton Rouge: Louisiana State University Press. LCCN 61015488. OCLC 476957.
• Cave, Alfred A. (2017). Sharp Knife: Andrew Jackson and the American Indians. Native America: Yesterday and Today. Santa Barbara, California: Praeger/ABC-CLIO. ISBN 9781440860393. LCCN 2017023416. OCLC 987376258.
• Chappell, Gordon T. (November 1949). "Some Patterns of Land Speculation in the Old Southwest". The Journal of Southern History. 15 (4): 463–477. doi:10.2307/2198383. JSTOR 2198383.
• Cheathem, Mark R. (2019). "The Stubborn Mythology of Andrew Jackson". Reviews in American History. 47 (3): 342–348. doi:10.1353/rah.2019.0062. ISSN 1080-6628.
• Cherry, James E. (2017-03-26). "Andrew Jackson: The Good, the Bad, the Ethnic Cleansing". Opinion. The Commercial Appeal. Memphis, Tennessee. ISSN 0745-4856. OCLC 9227552.
• Davis, William C. (1995). A Way Through the Wilderness: The Natchez Trace and the Civilization of the Southern Frontier. New York: HarperCollins. ISBN 0060169214. LCCN 94042289.
• Cox, Isaac Joslin (1918). The West Florida Controversy, 1798–1813. The Albert Shaw Lectures on Diplomatic History, 1912. Baltimore, Maryland: The Johns Hopkins Press. hdl:loc.gdc/scd0001.00018179829. LCCN 18007630. OCLC 1619981. OL 6607038M. 
• Davis, Ronald L. F. (April 1993). The Black Experience in Natchez, 1720–1880 (Report). Special History Study. Natchez National Historical Park, U.S. National Park Service – via Internet Archive. 
• Drew, Bettina Lee (2001). Master Andrew Jackson: Indian Removal and the Culture of Slavery (Thesis). Yale University.
• Dick, Everett (1948). The Dixie Frontier: A Social History of the Southern Frontier from the First Transmontane Beginnings to the Civil War. New York: Alfred A. Knopf. LCCN 48005379. OCLC 1526424.
• Inskeep, Steve (2015-07-05). "How Jackson Made a Killing in Real Estate". History. Politico Magazine. ISSN 2381-1595.
• Kanon, Tom (2014). Tennesseans at War, 1812–1815: Andrew Jackson, the Creek War, and the Battle of New Orleans. Tuscaloosa: The University of Alabama Press. ISBN 978-0-8173-1829-1. LCCN 2013049815. OCLC 900093586. Project MUSE book 30812.
• Keeler, Kyle (2023-02-02). "How Wikipedia Erases Indigenous History". Future Tense. Slate. ISSN 1091-2339.
• Matthews, Dylan (2016-04-20). "Andrew Jackson was a Slaver, Ethnic Cleanser, and Tyrant. He Deserves No Place on Our Money". Politics. Vox.
• McCline, John (1998). Furman, Jan (ed.). Slavery in the Clover Bottoms: John McCline's Narrative of His Life During Slavery and the Civil War. Voices of the Civil War. Introduction by H. J. Hagerman. Knoxville: University of Tennessee Press. ISBN 1572330074. LCCN 97045254. OCLC 37820147.
• Olsgaard, John (1976). States' Rights and Dualism: an Administrative Study of Andrew Jackson's Indian Policy (M.A. thesis). University of North Dakota. 
• Opal, J. M. (2017). Avenging the People: Andrew Jackson, the Rule of Law, and the American Nation. New York: Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-0-19-975170-9. LCCN 2016044301. OCLC 960030315.
• Soliman, Anthony Albey (June 2018). "For All Such, a Country Is Provided": Choctaw Removal, Slave Trading, and Law in Southwestern Mississippi, 1800–1841 (M.A. thesis). San Luis Obispo, California: California Polytechnic State University. doi:10.15368/theses.2018.61. 
• Turnbow, Tony L. (2018). Hardened to Hickory: The Missing Chapter in Andrew Jackson's Life. Nashville, Tennessee: Self-published ebook. ISBN 9780692087527. OCLC 1066116187.
• Wiggins, James (2024). Outliving the White Lie: A Southerner's Historical, Genealogical, and Personal Journey. Jackson, Mississippi: University Press of Mississippi. ISBN 978-1-4968-4808-6. LCCN 2023053698. OCLC 1378377839. Project MUSE book 118503.
• Wyatt-Brown, Bertram (Spring 1997). "Andrew Jackson's Honor". Journal of the Early Republic. 17 (1). Society for Historians of the Early American Republic. University of North Carolina Press: 1–36. doi:10.2307/3124641. eISSN 1553-0620. JSTOR 3124641. OCLC 44849568.

jengod (talk) 18:19, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Awed by this article--and a couple of questions

I ran across this article on the "Signpost" which mentioned it as one of the most edited articles on Wikipedia. I was awestruck by the quality of your work. It's one of the best things I've read on Wikipedia.

I have a couple of questions. In the second summary paragraph you wrote a sentence that puzzled me. Jackson said that the cost of sending a slave to market was only 15 dollars. I wondered why that statement by Jackson was so important as to be in the summary paras and searched out the context. I concluded that the importance is that Jackson admitted in writing that he sent slaves to market -- not the 15 dollar bit. I think you might amend that sentence for clarity as to its importance.

Secondly, I scanned through the article to see if there was a mention of Arthur M. Schlesinger who wrote a Pulitzer prize winning biography of Jackson. As I recall from reading the biography decades ago, Schlesinger was admiring of Jackson. Jackson's reputation has taken a hit (and for good reason) since 1945 when the book was written. I would be interested in Schlesinger's take on Jackson and slavery. Or maybe I should just re-acquire a copy of the book and write an article on that.

Once again, my congratulations on a fine piece of work. Smallchief (talk) 10:53, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

You are very kind Smallchief. Implemented your excellent suggestion in the lede. Further comments, edits and cuts (it's too long!) very welcome. I will take a look at Schlesinger! jengod (talk) 15:40, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Red links

Hello The First Legionnaire just wanted to say thanks for the very thoughtful edit and also that, without objection, Im going to go back through and restore the removed redlinks. Partly per WP:REDLINK which states:

Red links are for subjects that should have articles but do not. They are not only acceptable, but needed in articles. They serve as a clear indication of which articles are in need of creation, and encourage it. Only remove red links if you are certain that Wikipedia should not have an article on that subject.

I know some people hate them--my friend Julie says they're ugly and refuses to add them--but I find them a helpful framework and/or I use them to bully myself into writing more articles for Wikipedia. I just checked my account and the following articles were created as a direct result of their redlinks on this page being irksome so the solution was to make them blue LOL: Pharsalia Race Course, Andrew Erwin (businessman), J. Winston Coleman, Boyd McNairy, Calvin Schermerhorn, Edward Ward (businessman), William Preston Anderson, N. A. McNairy, Fort Dearborn (Mississippi), Tennessee Gazette and Mero-District Advertiser, Joseph Erwin, Haysborough, Tennessee, Joseph Coleman (Tennessee), Port Gibson Correspondent, Natchez Ariel, Mississippi Free Trader, John Hutchings (slave trader), Pickering County, Mississippi Territory, The Book Farm, Philander Smith (Mississippi), Hunter's Hill (Tennessee), Walnut Hills (Mississippi), Harriet Chappell Owsley, Fairchild Creek (Mississippi), St. Catherine Creek, Abner Green, Peter Bryan Bruin

So anyway, red links are my path forward but just wanted to double check before restoring. Cheers, jengod (talk) 22:11, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Cooper 1920

Thank you for your work, Jen.

In this edit the lonely footnote {{sfnp|Cooper|1920|page=36}} was introduced. I poked around with a few :insouce searches, thinking I could find a source article where Cooper was used, alas, I failed. But maybe you meant {{sfnp|Carson|1920|page=36}}? "Page=36" fits the page range 26–38 in the source, doi:10.2307/1886569.

Best, Sam Sailor 19:58, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

I definitely meant Carson LOL if that's the pre-steamboat River transportation article. I swear I think i have proper name dyslexia or something. I'll clean it up when I get home if no one gets to it first. Thank you @Sam Sailor for helping resolve my myriad errors!! jengod (talk) 20:01, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Happy to help, corrected in this diff. Best, Sam Sailor 20:20, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

TYSM! jengod (talk) 20:33, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Burstein page numbers

The Burstein page numbers seem wildly unlikely, going as high as 1444, but the book seems only to have about 320 pages according to Amazon etc. DuncanHill (talk) 13:12, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

@DuncanHill no doubt! I ordered a physical copy of the book from the library so I can replace with normal page numbers but right now I'm using an Amazon Kindle version that just describes things as "location 306 of 6172". I didn't know what else to do. jengod (talk) 14:30, 17 November 2024 (UTC)