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Name?
editI've known of ALO since the formation of the Stones and he was always known to us as ALO or just Andy Oldham - I am puzzled by the note "This British surname is barrelled, being made up of multiple names. It should be written as Loog Oldham, not Oldham." Since when? I have read both volumes of his autobiography and I don't recall any instance of his being referred to by a third person as Loog Oldham. I am well aware that the Loog is from his father whom he never knew: but unless that is is preference, it does not make his name barreled. Was this a unilateral decision by some editor? Cross Reference (talk) 05:05, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'll own up to making the name consistent throughout the article as Loog Oldham, based on the hatnote which says it should be written as Loog Oldham, not Oldham. That hatnote was added on 1 September 2022 by User:CitizenKang414. Perhaps they could explain, or add a citation? The article's online references do indeed say Oldham. I haven't seen the books referenced. Masato.harada (talk) 14:51, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- I have amended the text to show Oldham throughout, with an explanatory note. Masato.harada (talk) 07:52, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- If his parents were married – which is not made clear either way in the article – it strikes me as extremely unlikely that he was brought up without his father's surname. What does his autobiography say on that subject? Also, what did contemporary printed sources (the 1960s music press) say?
- Moreover, is it not possible that some (at least) sources acknowledge his surname is "Loog Oldham" yet refer to him as "Oldham" in order to save space?
- Just some thoughts. Harfarhs (talk) 16:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Pet Sounds advert myth
editI've removed the reference to Oldham's taking out adverts to publicise said Beach Boys album, as it's not true. Someone involved with the production of the 1995 Brian Wilson documentary "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times" searched the UK rock press of 1966-67 and failed to find any such thing.86.13.147.181 (talk) 11:21, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
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Interview, profile piece suggestion
editInterview and profile from 1966 with NME. (Full disclosure: I am an editor at Crawdaddy!, where this was recently republished. But, to abide with COI guidelines, I am not posting anything on the wikipage itself, just letting editors know about the source.) Rolling Stone Oldham: Talented, Insulting, Outrageous Thanks for your time
Asst. Editor, Crawdaddy! FenderRhodesScholar | Talk 18:33, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Pronunciation
editPerhaps someone can add the correct pronunciation for Loog, seeing as we are dealing with an Englishman and a Dutch name. Varlaam (talk) 05:26, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Forgive this "discussing the subject", but it might prove useful to the article: For English speakers (of all stripe, or stars-and-stripe), would it be reasonably accurate to give his name as sounding like "Andrew Rhymes-with-'rogue' Old-'em"? 2601:545:8201:AB7A:9889:3EE4:C75F:EEA8 (talk) 20:43, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
In the sixties I knew people who had known him a year or two earlier and we, Stones fans all, pronounced it to rhyme with coug as in cougar.Cross Reference (talk) 01:03, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
It's fair to assume that it would rhyme with Moog', and here's the man himself to confirm he likes the sound 'owg' as in the first syllable of 'ogre':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDN-y0QQ7cs Recidivist23 (talk) 08:00, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
please clarify some things
editHis father was killed in 1943 but I am seeing Feb. 1944 for formation of Eighth Air Force (see its article); presumably a predecessor to Eighth Air Force was already in operation.
Where was he born? In addition to Eighth Air Force being mentioned, it's mentioned that his mother was Australian. (Oops, the background-information inset does mention London, but how did that come about given what I saw about his parents?)
I am seeing his father's surname as Loog and his mother's maiden name as Oldham. So what happened to cause this man to be become known as Andrew Loog Oldham?
OK, there is the note about this man encouraging Jagger and Richards to write their own songs, but it is also noted that in 1963, Oldham had the "s" removed from Richards' surname. (Richards would restore that trailing "s" in the 1970s.) See Richards' Wikipedia entry.
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