Talk:Andy Lee (South Korean singer)

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I think this still needs some cleanup, but it looks a little better now. Monni 07:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Is it true that when Andy was absent from shinhwa, he was going to commit suicide?

No, this isn't true. It was only a rumour and though the issue was allowed to get bigger than it should have been, the truth was that he was in America finishing his education. Hsstorm 06:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Should it be mentioned here?

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Moved, per consensus. bd2412 T 20:21, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Andy Lee (entertainer) → Andy Lee (Korean singer) – Firstly fails WP:CRITERIA on Naturalness" since called "singer Andy Lee" not "entertainer Andy Lee" in most sources. Secondly, fails WP:DAB, since Andy Lee (comedian) is what anyone from Australia would expect to find at this "entertainer" title, and (although not well known outside Germany) Andy Lee (German musician) might be what is expected by German users straying into en.wp. --Relisted. -- tariqabjotu 03:57, 21 September 2013 (UTC) In ictu oculi (talk) 02:36, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

• Oppose. Firstly, as a general matter, using plain Google hits to determine article titles goes against policy, especially for BLPs. See WP:CRITERIA: "Article titles are based on how reliable English-language sources refer to the article's subject." Also see WP:BLPSPS: "Never use self-published sources – including but not limited to books, zines, websites, blogs, and tweets – as sources of material about a living person." Secondly, even if you do use plain unexamined Google searches (the methodology chosen by the nom), there are 39,500 results for "singer Andy Lee" (the search posted by the nom), but 35,200 results for "actor andy lee" - and even 9,450 for "entertainer Andy Lee". An unreliable, ham-fisted methodology? Sure. But failing any other stats, it shows that this person is well known as both a singer and actor - and even fairly regularly as an entertainer. Dohn joe (talk) 16:57, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Dohn joe.

Which is why I didn't give numbers, just simple link to Google. When someone isn't notable in Google Books the idea of using plain Google is that it is up to the user of plain Google to be able to identify WP:IRS reliable sources in the search run such as Korea Times Andy Lee Starts Military Service:

Singer Andy Lee entered the military Monday, becoming the first member of popular six-member boy group Shinhwa to start the two-year mandatory military service.

Or Korea Herald. These are the two main English language newspapers in South Korea and both continually describe the members of Shinhwa, Eric Mun, Lee Min-woo, Kim Dong-wan, Shin Hye-sung, Jun Jin and Andy Lee as "singers". Show us a Korea Herald or Korea Times article which describes Andy Lee as an "entertainer Andy Lee," they don't. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:49, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

...more importantly, you have failed to address that references to entertainment + Andy Lee = Australian Andy Lee (comedian), even searching on the singer pulls up the Australian comedian. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:51, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

• Comment at the very least this should be Andy Lee (Korean entertainer), since there are many entertainers listed at Andy Lee, and that title should therefore be redirected to the disambiguation page -- 70.24.249.39 (talk) 09:31, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
  • Support current disambiguation is ambiguous, and the current title should redirect to the disambiguation page -- 70.24.249.39 (talk) 00:35, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
• Support per the above search data and the ambiguity noted by the editor from IP 70.24.249.39 - and also, of course, because "entertainer" is a bad disambiguator in the first place. 168.12.253.66 (talk) 18:50, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

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Removal of nicknames from infobox

I removed the various nicknames from the 'also known as' field of the Infobox; that field is for alternate names used professionally and not addressed elsewhere in the Infobox. Please do not re-add any nicknames in that field. :) Shinyang-i (talk) 06:23, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

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