The "Hobbitathon"

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The The "Hobbitathon" section is a repeat of information which is in the 'Other works' section, and the two sections have different totals. One needs to be removed. 194.28.124.55 (talk) 04:32, 11 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Reviewer: TompaDompa (talk · contribs) 14:12, 8 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

This is a WP:QUICKFAIL based on criterion 1 (It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria). Specifically, it is far from meeting WP:GACR 1, which mandates that the article be well-written. Reading through the article, I spotted a fairly large number of redundancies and parts that are out of date, as well as some other issues. A non-exhaustive sample follows:

  • The WP:LEAD reads like a resume. The only thing we find out besides his career is his name, nationality, and date of birth—all in the first sentence.
  • He is best known for [...] – this is followed by a very lengthy list, way too long for "best known for".
  • His mother, Lylie Weech, was half Iraqi and half English, and taught disabled children; his father, Clement Serkis, was an Iraqi-Armenian gynaecologist. His parents are Catholic. – inconsistent tense.
  • Some critics feltMOS:WEASEL.
  • Serkis appeared in the role of Mr. Grin in the film rendition of Anthony Horowitz's Alex Rider novel Stormbreaker. – the last link is an WP:EASTEREGG, leading to the film rather than the book as one would expect from the sentence structure.
  • Serkis supplied the voice and motion capture performance of Captain Haddock (adopting a Scottish accent) – is the accent really relevant?
  • In January 2011, it was confirmed that Serkis would reprise the role of Gollum in The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey the first film in the three-part The Hobbit films. – why should we care when it was confirmed, now that the movie has been released? This looks like something that was added when the news was recent, with nobody thinking to remove it since.
  • He was invited to join the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences in June 2012 along with 175 other individuals. – AMPAS has thousands of members. Why is this worth mentioning?
  • In late 2015, it was announced that Serkis was working on a modern film adaptation of Rumpelstiltskin, titled Steelskin. In addition to starring in the film, Serkis will serve as producer and director. – did that come to pass? Was it cancelled? Is it now in production? This needs to be updated.
  • Also for Netflix, Serkis is scheduled to star alongside Idris Elba and Cynthia Erivo in a new TV movie of Elba's show, Luther. – that would be Luther: The Fallen Sun, which has been released. This needs to be updated.
  • The Imaginarium is a production company and creative digital studio based in Ealing, London and is dedicated to invention of believable, emotionally engaging digital characters using Performance Capture technology – this sounds like a press release from the company itself, which is probably because the source is the company's "Who We Are" page.
  • It was released on 1 October in the US and 15 October in the UK – why should we care about this level of detail? And if we should, why only these two countries? This is a very clear example of WP:Systemic bias.
  • a new motion capture adaptation of Animal Farm, which Serkis has confirmed is his next film he will be directing – the fairly non-encyclopaedic phrasing notwithstanding, this is missing the rather important detail of when he said that (and if known, when it is expected to happen).
  • In 2022, he was set to direct Animal Farm an animated adaptation of George Orwell's novel of the same name. – and there we have it again, in a different paragraph (and subsection). Check for redundancies like this.
  • Serkis, together with fellow Lord of the Rings castmates Sean Astin, Sean Bean, Orlando Bloom, Billy Boyd, Ian McKellen, Dominic Monaghan, Viggo Mortensen, Miranda Otto, John Rhys-Davies, Liv Tyler, Karl Urban and Elijah Wood, plus writer Philippa Boyens and director Peter Jackson, on 1 May 2020 joined Josh Gad's YouTube series Reunited Apart, which reunites the cast of popular movies through video-conferencing due to the COVID-19 pandemic, and promotes donations to non-profit charities. – this lengthy single-sentence paragraph is borderline-incomprehensible.
  • On 2 July 2020, HarperCollinsUK announced that Serkis would professionally narrate The Hobbit again to be published for Audible. The audiobook was released on 3 September 2020 in the UK, published by HarperCollins, and 21 September in the US, published by Recorded Books. – again, why include the date it was announced? The announcement and the release were separated by a mere two months.
  • On 7 July 2021, HarperCollinsUK and Recorded Books announced Serkis would follow up his narration of The Hobbit with a professional recording of all three The Lord of the Rings novels that were released on 16 September. – same thing here. And why is this in a separate paragraph?
  • that were released on 16 September. The CDs were released on 14 October 2021. – that seems contradictory. What am I missing?
  • Serkis and producer Andrew Levitas will release a seven-part comic book series in 2022 – well it's 2023 now, so this needs to be updated.
  • In 2023 he starred in the Netflix Film Luther: The Fallen Sun, based on the BBC TV Series Luther, playing a psychopathic killer. – why is this in the "Other activities" section? Also, this is (as noted above) mentioned in the proper section, albeit with out-of-date information.
  • Serkis was born to Catholic parents. – already mentioned in the "Early life" section.
  • An atheist since his teenage years, he is "drawn to the karmic possibilities of energy transference", specifically "the idea that your energy lives on after you". – not sure his atheism is necessary to include at all (has it played a part in any important events in his life?), and the quotes aren't helpful at all (reading the cited source, I get the impression that he is speaking figuratively about the impact one has on the world).
  • The "Selected theatre" section is mostly unsourced.

This article needs to be rewritten as a cohesive unit, by somebody taking the perspective of how to improve it as a whole. This is beyond the scope of the WP:GAN process. TompaDompa (talk) 14:12, 8 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Please Don't Erase Encyclopedic Information About Him Being A Two Time Simpsons Guest Star

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I have seen other pages where Simpsons guest appearances are noted as well. I do not like it when POV excuses are used to erase relevant information.2601:449:4582:B3C0:6CED:772B:AA73:CB01 (talk) 02:14, 25 November 2024 (UTC)Reply