Talk:Angloise (Leopold Mozart)

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Anyone heard of this piece? Anyone have at least a K number for it? DavidRF 18:41, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

London Sketchbook? Seems too early for K397. I'm stumped. DavidRF 18:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Intriguingly, http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd.asp?ppn=MN0017292 shows the first page of a score.

OTOH, the liner notes (~700 pages) for Brilliant's "Complete Works" don't mention it, and NMA Online doesn't either. Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:21, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

I think this is likely by Leopold Mozart. Googling around, there's and "Angloise" by Leopold for his "Notebook for Wolfgang" that shows up in introductory piano books. I think all of the "Notebook for Wolfgang" was written (or collected) by Leopold, not Wolfgang himself. Its presence in introductory lesson books would explain how the page got created too. Does that help point anyone in the right direction? I don't have access to catalogs of Leopold's works. DavidRF (talk) 15:59, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

I too saw those references to Leopold when I googled for Angloise & Mozart. Still, there's the score at musicnotes which says WAM; this might of course be a wrong attribution. Also, there's such a title mentioned at http://shop.jpmc.com/cgi-bin/books/EMZ-2-107-277.html

I agree that the most likely author is indeed Leopold, either from his Notebook for Wolfgang, or, according to http://music.geocities.jp/zupfensemble/com/com08_01.html from a work "Suite Nr.8 d minor (For Wolfgang)". Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:19, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

My desire was to make this article more than a stub and find information on the composition that would enable me to do that. I don't think that's possible.

According to IMSLP (https://imslp.org/wiki/Notebook_for_Wolfgang_(Mozart,_Leopold)), Wolfgang Plath, a noted German musicologist and expert on W. A. Mozart, the dedication page in "The Notebook for Wolfgang" is a forgery and the book is of German origin in about 1850. This would make it very unlikely to be composed by Leopold Mozart. So Angloise was also not likely to be written by Leopold M. In support of this, when I searched all music for a description of the work and/or song book, there was nothing listed under Leopold Mozart for either. This does not, in my opinion, close the argument, but it does make it necessary to find evidence it is by Leopold.

I do believe an article on "Notebook for Wolfgang" is merited but the dubious authorship should be pointed out. That would mean this article should actually be deleted or rather incorporated into the "Notebook for Wolfgang" article.Mike32065 (talk) 17:28, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

"Angloise" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Angloise has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 27 § Angloise until a consensus is reached. Jay 💬 07:51, 27 January 2024 (UTC)