Talk:Animal Crossing (video game)

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Is adding the HRA against WP:NOT?

I wouldn't think so, so I'm going to add it in under "House improvements". As in, ...can be customized in a number of ways, including roof color, furniture, the music (if any) that plays when a player enters the house, wallpaper, and flooring. These customizations are judged by the Happy Room Academy (or HRA), on a point scale. While your HRA score does not affect gameplay, some players enjoy getting as high of a score as possible. I'm going to add that in for the moment, and attempt to make it flow with the rest of the section. Theman98 (talk) 17:42, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

More info

I think there should be more info on the places, like tom nooks' shop and the museum and town gate. Goldie (chattin') —Preceding undated comment added 12:58, 24 December 2009 (UTC).

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:49, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Help the AC WIKIA!

http://animalcrossing.wikia.com

We need people that are experienced with the wiki system to cut and paste parts of the wiki articles over.

--Aeryka the Gnome (talk) 05:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I think there is enough on there! It is a good informative site. It has a section which shows what parts need editing. You do not have to copy and paste the whole article onto the wikia. --Goldie (chattin')

In regards to the NES games...

I noticed that the list of NES games found in Animal Crossing was removed, due to it being "game-guide information". I thought this applied to things such as what items are in the game, fruit, etc. While it is true that the games are obtainable items, they are predominately considered as being complete versions of NES games. Would a full list of NES games be considered game-guide information? I wouldn't think so. Hardcore gamer 48 (talk) 10:18, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

HRA setion

as you may have seen i have edited the HOUSE IMPROVEMENTS section

the HRA score does effect game play. feel free to dellete my edit AFTER you have changed that.

--Katana kid (talk) 07:37, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Two good reliable sources that could cover most of the article

Two good reliable sources that I'm not seeing in references here are the Offical Animal Crossing Players Guide by Nintendo Power (which is owned by the game makers) and Gamewinners.com. Citing these sources would cover great portions of this article, and there might even be some encylopedic information there that we could use (but we of course must not copy the sources word for word). PCHS-NJROTC ^(Messages) 23:08, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Reference: Wiki

The wiki listed in the references seems to be quite out-of-date and doesn't offer much information. Sites like this Animal Crossing wiki or Animal Crossing Community should be featured as references and what-not.

Just a suggestion. ;)

–Jlp09550 (talk) 02:06, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Do you mean the External Links? Wikis and fansites shouldn't be used as actual references, they aren't considered reliable. Haipa Doragon (talk • contributions) 23:20, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Release date of Dōbutsu no Mori

Although wikis aren't considered for referencing, dedicated Animal Crossing wikis state the release of Dōbutsu no Mori was April 2001, with the + update following in December of the same year. This Wikipedia article says Dōbutsu no Mori was released in 1997, with the + update coming four years later. Neither here or the dedicated wiki has a source, so which is it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.149.100.227 (talk) 12:17, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Animal Crossing: Population: Growing

The title is wrong, it's supposed to be "Animal Crossing: Population: Growing" you can tell just by looking at the picture, it clearly says "Population: Growing". Please update this, so each game, Wild World, City Folk, New Leaf and Population: Growing are identified, thanks.2602:304:CFD3:2EE0:6D62:3310:B0BA:DA6D (talk) 06:18, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

There is no reliable source that identifies the GameCube Animal Crossing game as "Animal Crossing: Population: Growing." Based on your personal analysis, the full title should actually be "Welcome to Animal Crossing: Population: Growing", given that that subtext also exists in the picture. Even if it is the game's true name, it is certainly not the common name. So no, the title should not be changed. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 17:26, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Look at the picture used in the article *winks* you can't be more wrong about the name, it's IN THE PICTURE USED IN THE ARTICLE!!!2602:304:CFD3:2EE0:CCD4:AF14:1495:DCE8 (talk) 03:58, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes, it says that, but it's not being shown as a part of the title. Using that logic, the game would be titled Welcome to Animal Crossing: Population: Growing or something. Beyond that, both your suggestion, and my ridiculous one, fail WP:COMMONNAME, the way in which we name articles. (EDIT: Whoa, hadn't read Thomas's response. Pretty much the exact same thing. Oh well, I guess it just shows there's clearly a policy-based rationale against this.) Sergecross73 msg me 15:40, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

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(Video game)?

I’m wondering why the title of this page is “animal crossing (video game)” and not “animal crossing population growing”? I believe that is the actual title. DaedalusGodOfWisdom (talk) 14:32, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

I missed the other discussion on this. DaedalusGodOfWisdom (talk) 14:33, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Unnecessary revert

Hi @TapDatApp:,

My edit was completely fine.

• It's not called Animal Crossing: Population Growing! (see discussion on this talk page)
• It's unnecessary to mention a game in a certain series was the last one to be released for a particular system
• This article is about Animal Crossing, so "Throughout the game" is redundant
• It's Mr. Resetti, not "Resetti"
• Words like "fully", "entirely" is unnecessary emphasis. If it's playable, the reader can assume it's fully playable, if it's removed, the reader can assume it was removed entirely
• "Exclusively" is ad speak
• "This game" is not okay, and there's nothing wrong with mentioning the title again in a new section
• "His or her" -> their, per WP:GNL
• Words like "then" and "also" add nothing
• It's GBAs, not GBA's
• NoA is not an okay abbreviation for the formal Nintendo of America

Those were all of my edits. It took longer to write this then the actual edit. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 07:58, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

@Soetermans: You are obviously correct. I call it de-also-ification or unjunking. Transparent fluff has no bones. Well done. — Smuckola(talk) 10:20, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, @Smuckola:. I don't know how many times I've removed the words "also" and "then" from articles in my editing career. Good work on trimming the gameguide stuff, I should've spotted that also. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 11:11, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Fair enough, but I think you misunderstood the text about it being the last game in the series. This was the last game ever released for the Nintendo 64 system, not just of its series. I believe that is definitely notable enough to be included. TapDatApp (talk) 00:14, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry @TapDatApp:, I understood what you meant, but it really isn't notable enough to be mentioned. There are hundreds, thousands even of games that are part of a series that were the last of that particular series to be released for a particular system. Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! is the last for the SNES, there's no mention; the next game is Donkey Kong 64. The reader can figure out from context that there is no other Donkey Kong game for the SNES. And we don't mention that Donkey Kong 64 is the first and the last for the Nintendo 64 either. In the article on Control, I took out a bit that said it was the first game by developer Remedy on a Sony console since Max Payne 2 in 2003. Not notable at all!

Also while it isn’t called Population Growing, it is largely referred to as such. Which is what the original text stated. And is included in tons of other Wikipedia articles. TapDatApp (talk) 00:16, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

...Where? Where on Wikipedia is Animal Crossing called Population Growing? I certainly can't find any evidence of that. Regardless, per WP:CIRC, we can't use Wikipedia as a source for Wikipedia. Not that it matters anyway, because we use what reliable sources say. There's a well-curated list of reliable sources for video games: WP:VG/RS and it has its own custom Google search engine that looks through those sources. If I look up "animal crossing" "population growing", to make sure both "animal" and "crossing" and "population" and "growing" are written together, I get a total of six results.

• The reliable source GamesRadar does use "Population Growing" in "In 2019, the key to fighting burnout is inside Animal Crossing’s absurd village life"
• In a user-submitted review, "Wild world....?", it's used
• A user-submitted walkthrough, "K.K. Slider - Appearance in New Horizons, Song List and more", last edited February 1, 2007, it's called "Population Growing"
• In "Animal Crossing: New Horizons Won't Have Direct Connectivity With The Mobile Entry Pocket Camp", a reply in the comment section mentions "Population Growing"
• Same goes for "Family Gamer TV Shows You How To Move Towns In Animal Crossing: New Leaf"
• And for "Animal Crossing Tobidase Reaches Japan This Fall"

That's one usage in an actual reliable source of the title being Population Growing. And as you can see in the discussion above, @ThomasO1989 and Sergecross73: pointed out that it's just the tagline on the cover. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 07:51, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

@Soetermans: I've seen another case of people having an inability to discern a title from a tagline, talking about Super Mario Bros. 2 having the tagline of "Mario Madness" lol. But never this widespread of an obviously wrong misconception, and of such bad Engrish. Two colons in one title? And yeah I don't know how long all that now-deleted fancruft was in this article, but I've never played Animal Crossing so that was all the more extra-unreadable jibbajabba to me. It was so hard to read, to even discern how useless it was. Which already by definition means we're neck-deep in the weeds of WP:FANCRUFT and WP:GAMEGUIDE, if it's only written for people who are actively playing the game, like preaching to a choir. — Smuckola(talk) 23:24, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

You missed the point on both fronts. I was referring to alternative titles or commonly used names being standard in other Wikipedia articles when something is often referred to by another name. Wasn't talking about Population Growing specifically. Also, you somehow still fail to realize that Animal Crossing is the last video game released for the Nintendo 64, period. Not just the last game in the series (although yes), not just the last game by Nintendo (although yes), but literally the last game released for the system in total. That IS notable. --TapDatApp (talk) 02:03, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

@TapDatApp: As Soetermans conclusively proved, it is you who are missing the point. You don't seem to understand the two main pillars of encyclopedic nature: notability, which is based on reliable sourcing. And you don't understand what a title even is, and you're arguing that we need to broadcast wrong information. You didn't demonstrate notability in saying that other articles use other alternative titles about other subjects; you actually demonstrated the fallacy of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. And "Population Growing" is not in any sense whatsoever a title, but an Engrish tagline; it's just wrong information, purely out of wrongheaded WP:FANCRUFT. Which you seem to kinda know but don't care. WP:NOTGETTINGIT WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT WP:ICANTHEARYOU As is known anyway by pretty much every reliable source in the world, and anyone following common sense instead of weird WP:FANCRUFT. You did say that "Population Growing" is included in other Wikipedia articles, which it isn't, and then claimed to Soetermans that you didn't say that. You are overall conducting a bunch of junk thinking, junk communication, junk writing, and disrespect. Drop it. The end, period. I don't know how to say it any plainer or nicer than that in sight of what you're doing to this dead horse (and to Soetermans and I and anyone else whose time is wasted by reading this), so WP:DROPTHESTICK.

If it is empirically and undisputably true that Animal Forest is the final release for Nintendo 64, that is a piece of trivia that would be somewhat harmless to include because it is slightly meaningful in a common sense contextual way, but it is not in any way WP:N. It means nothing and says nothing (WP:TRIVIA WP:FANCRUFT) in itself, unless a reliable source says it does for some reason, like maybe if an interview says that Miyamoto had officially closed off that generation's library to make resources for the next or maybe if other licensees complained that Nintendo's cartridge prices spiked and yet Nintendo was still able to afford to release Nintendo 64 games. I have to make up stories like that to imagine a way that could be WP:N but I guess it couldn't hurt if true. Either way, WP:DROPTHESTICK. — Smuckola(talk) 04:10, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Development background

Seems like this article is missing any sort of beefier addition to its development section. The game originated as a dungeon crawler / RPG, but this isn’t mentioned anywhere. Eguchi has done a few interviews talking about the game’s development history. Agree or disagree that we need to add more to this section? TapDatApp (talk) 00:17, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Be bold! soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 12:35, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

@TapDatApp, Martin IIIa, and Soetermans: Speaking as the one who wrote virtually all of 64DD, I would absolutely love additional reliably sourced development history of Animal Forest. So far, I could only state that this game was only made possible by the fundamental enabling tech of the 64DD. In other words, 64DD and Animal Forest are symbiotic, where the 64DD was made just to enable the conception of games like Animal Forest and Cabbage. I haven't found much depth to that, but I singled out Animal Forest a little bit on 64DD. It's the epitome of 64DD especially because it yielded a permanently successful series. Nobody could make games like this before on consoles, and I don't think anybody had made one on PCs. Most of the significance of this is lost to history behind the scenes, and only for the very cheap reason that the 64DD was profoundly delayed, because otherwise the 64DD and Animal Forest absolutely would have been hits together. Lots of industry buzz was about RTC and writability in general. And then in subsequent generations, those features were made permanently generically commonplace overnight. But we're talking about a full generation predating GameCube of a game that was almost a direct port to GameCube. It's not just "oh well, so the game evaded cancellation". I wish we had information about the process of porting the Nintendo 64 game to GameCube, because all I know is that it has a tiny cartridge-sized footprint on the disc and it can get away with simpler graphics due to the game's toylike genre. So TapDatApp can start by listing sources here! — Smuckola(talk) 23:24, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

@Smuckola and Soetermans: In this translated interview, Eguchi cites the game's original conception as a dungeon crawler / RPG type: http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/feature/42991/iwata-asks-in-commemoration-part-1-nintendo-game-seminar-2008-nintendo-game-seminar-2008-the-road-to-completing-animal-crossing-part-2 He also talks about his original intentions in creating the game to interact with his kids, etc. Tons of great material in this source, note the interview is split into a few parts or pages. This source also states Eguchi was a fan of Diablo specifically. https://www.giantbomb.com/articles/as-nintendo-evolved-so-did-animal-crossing/1100-4902/ --TapDatApp (talk) 02:25, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Superb. — Smuckola(talk) 04:10, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Misconception

Before reading this article, I always thought the game was about breeding hybrid animals. In the introduction, it is referred to as a "life simulation", which could also be misunderstood in the same direction. Elias (talk) 11:36, 29 January 2021 (UTC)