Talk:Anja Pärson

World Championship gold in all disciplines

Swede Anja Pärson becomes the first alpine skier in history to have World Ski Championship gold medals in all five disciplines

Imho, you could mention both Toni Sailer and Jean-Claude Killy who both got all gold in ski Olympics. 82.224.88.52 07:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Sure, that was very impressive too, but what does the alpine skiing at the Olympics have to do with the World Ski Championship? - x-Flare-x 00:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

From 1948 to 1980, alpine skiing medals at the Olympics also counted as FIS Alpine World Ski Championships medals. But there is no need to mention Sailer or Killy in this article, since their feats (although remarkable) are not the same as or comparable to Pärson's accomplishment. Seattle Skier 07:23, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

vandalism

look at the vandalism in the 1st paragraph —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.84.79.130 (talk) 12:12, 12 February 2007 (UTC).

I just reverted the page back, after pretty severe vandlism, see changes Fauxfoe 16:30, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Sami ethnicity

It would be nice to mention that Pärson is Sami. They are very proud of her achievements, and it's not often that the Sami have such a globally recognized icon. --King ravana 15:11, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

If this really is true (I'm a Swede and I've never heard of it before) then please provide links to verify it. - x-Flare-x 00:16, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I've found some mention of it on the net, like Lasse Anrell (Swedish sports columnist) talking about her being of Sami ethnicity and "a worthy representative for the Sami people" in this article (Swedish). I'm trying to find more information about this though. Anguished75 04:47, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Here are the sources I've found online: The Local ; Sami Radio (in Swedish) ; Aarran: Sami culture and news blog There are more, but I don't speak any of the languages. You can also contact Professor Tom DuBois, the chair of the Department of Scandinavian Studies at the University of Wisconsin, who has brought the point up repeatedly in his courses. --King ravana 14:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

So, can we say she is Finnic or Germanic? Is she Saami or Swedish? It is important to know what race she belongs to, the Finnic or the Germanic. Looking at her features, I would say Germanic. What is her real ethnicity? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tatar Tatar (talk • contribs) 14:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Of the articles linked above, in The Local (from AFP), Anja's father Anders Pärson talks about his fully Sami grandmother, and how his family is still part of that people.

The Sami Radio article talks about Anja being titled "Role model of the year" at Sami sports awards.

Sami people#Notable people of Sami descent lists Anja, referencing www.samer.se (in Swedish), which talks about Anja as a young girl winning Sami championships in slalom, and spreading Sami gold lustre over the 2007 World Championships in Åre.  --83.255.59.153 (talk) 15:48, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

World Championship medal table

I notice that this article includes not only an Olympic medal table, but also a medal table for the World (Ski) Championships; something that I've never seen in any other Wikipedia article. Thus I wonder: Is there a WP policy on notability of the World Championship of one sport over another? Or why is it included in this article and not in others?

In my opinion World Championships, although not being on the same level as Olympics, should definitely be given a more prominent place than just a brief mention in the text on any World Champs medalist. Though, I choose to ask this before doing any additions of this kind to other articles rather than adding them first and then having them removed. - x-Flare-x 10:50, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Conflicting weight data

Either the weight of 70 kg or 178 lb is in error — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.9.22.16 (talk) 02:14, 15 February 2007‎ (UTC)

Her weight is 81 kg, that is 178 lbs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎62.194.225.164 (talk) 14:48, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

According to several swedish newspapers her weight is 81 kg. However, her own official web site doesn't list her weight at all (I guess it changes throughout the season) and I read somewhere that she has trimmed her weight a few kg since her knee surgery. Any reference about her weight other than herself as source should be treated with skepticism and probably regarded as estimates at best. I think the weight should be removed altogether unless verifiability is possible. --Strangnet 18:40, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Moved article to wrong name

Sorry, I am the culprit for changing it to Anja Pärssøns. Isn't that the more accurate name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoocan (talk • contribs) 02:33, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

No, not even close. This could have been taken care of with a question here or by using a search engine. --Strangnet 05:25, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Team event in the medal table?

She did get a silver medal in Åre, for the team event. Shouldn't this be included in the table? Kronocide 16:09, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Unencyclopedic and unsourced material

The following statements were in this article prior to 21 February 2007:

After winning the bronze in combined at the 2006 Winter Olympic Games, Pärson did not hide her disappointment. Chief rival Janica Kostelić commented on Pärson's attitude: "With this skiing, she should have been happy with bronze."

This is not only unsourced and unreferenced, but in addition it simply does not belong in an encyclopedia article. WP is not a gossip column. See WP:V and WP:NPOV. Even better is the section titled Remove unsourced or poorly sourced controversial material in WP:BLP. Therefore, I have deleted these statements as I was revising and reorganizing the article today. We should stick with the facts, leave out the gossip, and properly reference any controversial material added to the article. Seattle Skier 07:16, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Bad transcription of the pronunciation of her name

The user (Tomasboij) who has transcribed Anja's name (and keeps reverting my correct transcription) obviously hasn't got a clue about IPA. I have studied phonology at university level. (1) The ɲ symbol is used for representing a palatal nasal sound, nowhere to be found in Anja's name. (2) The symbol : is used for indicating that a vowel sound is long, so why put it after a consonant sound? (3) There is secondary stress on the second syllable in "Anja" which should be indicated. Therefore, this is is the correct transcription: ['anˌja 'pæːʂɔn]. Could someone who is a registered user please correct the transcription and add a comment that leads back Tomasboij to this section so he doesn't keep incorrectly correcting the transcription? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.250.206.28 (talk) 21:10, 6 May 2007‎ (UTC)

You say you have studied phonology at university level, but you obviously failed the course. (1) Find a recording of somebody pronouncing Anja's name and analyse it with spectrogram. You will find a palatal nasal. (2) The symbol : is used for all long sounds, whether vowels or consonants, and the nasal is long. Again, this can be verified with a spectrogram. (3) What you misperceive as secondary stress is the Swedish so-called falling tonal accent. It can't be properly transcribed within the Wikipedia system. Moreover, you ignored the motivation I supplied for my revert of your edit: please consult the official IPA handbook. It has an entry on transcribing Swedish, written by Olle Engstrand, which corroborates my transcription. Tomasboij 12:25, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Coming out on the radio – not in an interview

"Pärson stated in an interview in June 2012 that she was in a relationship with a woman."

It was not in an interview, it was as a host of the radio program Sommar. If someone can phrase that in a better way than I'm able to do. 85.225.83.171 (talk) 13:11, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

It should also be present tense not past tense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.142.214.164 (talk) 14:37, 24 June 2012‎ (UTC)

Fixed it now. It's better phrased, but I still feel something isn't quite right. Backeby (talk) 21:24, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I've just taken it out[1], because it is sourced to a tabloid, and not a WP:RS. Courcelles 01:35, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

It was put back in with a more reliable source in the next edit. --83.255.59.153 (talk) 19:20, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

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Not comparable

Reading about racers from the (very) past years like Sailer and Killy, I would like to point out that no racer (or sportsman or sports woman) could (should) be compared - there were a lower number of events (or races) - and the equipment did change. - Wins in the Alpine Combined were wins in "paper races" - therefore Sailer did win 5 gold-medals, Killy four. Another racers were Annemarie Moser-Pröll with 3 gold medal wins in downhill, Hanni Wenzel (2 in slalom, on in giant slalom) and Rosi Mittermaier (1 in slalom, 1 in donwhill). When Christl Cranz did race in the 1930ies, there were only two disciplines (because the Alpine Combined also was a "paper race"). The Alpine Skiing Event at the Winter Olympics 1936 was a two-run race - and scoring the result was a calculation of points. On the other hand there was no Super-G (and no Alpine Combined like such one which is carried out since the World Championships 1982) at that time. Maybe, Pröll, Wenzel, Mittermaier, Cranz or Sailer and Killy would have been able to win another gold medals (it is theory). Skiscout (talk) 15:05, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Pärson in the season 2006-07

It is possible that Pärson's accomplishment in the World Cup races in 2006-07 has to be seen under the understanding that she was focused on the FIS Alpine Skiing World Championships to be carried out in her home country Sweden. And winning five medals (incl. the Team-Event) she did do right. Okay, I am knowing that no one could be sure to win, but she could (and "afterwit is everybody's wit"). Skiscout (talk) 14:29, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

First win of a World Cup Race

She could achieve her first win in her 5th competing. She was an unknown racer at that time - wearing bib number 36 in that race on December 3rd, 1998, is a sign that she was an upcoming racer or a rank outsider. The best racers in slalom (and giant slalom) races have early numbers (one to eight are the top of the world, followed by nine to fifteen). After the first leg she was only 15th-placed. Throughout to now, such an improvement in female slalom races is the highest one - and to win a female slalom race with number 36 is the second highest number behind the number 42, when Renate Götschl could win in 1993. Skiscout (talk) 14:47, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

The "Penguin"

Over the years she began to create her wins with a figure which was named "Penguin" - she did leap for joy (or leap around) and belly-land in the snow. Skiscout (talk) 15:17, 18 January 2017 (UTC)