Talk:Annals of the Four Masters

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First time edit for me, just removed a double the in the sentence:
"that relied on the traditional the Irish upper classes for patronage"
changed it to:
"that relied on the traditional Irish upper classes for patronage"
If you think I made any errors in how I edited this page just tell me, like I said I'm new at this.
Baudin

• Interesting article. By the way, it is useful to sign your name with the four tildes (~), which also adds the date and time. Further, no need to explain your edits (they are all tracked on the "history" tab of any page). Thanks for helping to strengthen this article (and hopefully more!). Hu Gadarn 15:16, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

External link

This link - *Irish Genealogical Foundation Photographs and history of original printed editions by Connellan and O'Donovan. was added to the article by the site owner. In keeping with our external links guidelines I'm moving it here so regular editors of the page can assess and add it back if you think it appropriate.

The site is obviously commercial, having a link at the bottom to purchase a set of the books. Because of this I don't believe it is an appropriate link for Wikipedia. However there is information on the page that could be considered beneficial. Other opinions? -- Siobhan Hansa 17:17, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

• I'm in favour of including the link, it provides information about a rare early edition of the annals, including several photos that can't be included in the article for copyright reasons. Demiurge 17:24, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Calendar and deluge

Fintan is reported in the Annals to have lived 5500 years departing the mortal realm in 550 CE so that puts the deluge about 5000 BCE. I removed the single Hebrew calender designation of A.M. and used BC. That makes the whole article consistent. If someone wants to change it to all Hebrew or all Common Era designations... fine. But the annals are clear about the length of Fintan's life and his departure putting the deluge at 5000 BCE. Alatari (talk) 15:41, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Do you have a ref for this? The translation linked from this article puts the Christian era six years after 5194 AM. It also doesn't mention Fintan dying in 550 CE. Is there another volume you're looking at? --Bazzargh (talk) 17:07, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

His article Fintan mac Bóchra states he lived 5500 years and departed in the 5th century putting the deluge at 5000 B.C. by calculation, although I see no sources listed. The source you listed doesn't state when the Deluge occurred although it states the age of the world at A.M.5194. If the Deluge is the beginning of the world then that would be 3194 BC? I'm not good with A.M. usage and I'd guess neither is the common reader. Alatari (talk) 14:32, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

The year of the deluge is mentioned - the first entry of the translation[1] puts it as 2242 AM (2958 BC), sorry I'd linked directly to the entries that connect AM to AD/BC. The deluge isn't the date of creation in these myths, it refers to Noah's Flood. There's an article on Anno Mundi that might help with the AM stuff btw, I got here digging for references for that article. Given that theres no references on the Fintan article and the translation of the annals gives the date pretty directly, I'll correct it here and ask User:Auric The Rad if he had another source. After some digging I found that the Fintan story appears to originate in the Lebor na hUidre (translation[2], here transcribed as 'Finnen'), but I don't see dates. --Bazzargh (talk) 15:51, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm sure there's disagreement over the dates depending on the sources. Another editor pointed that out to me. See this discussion. Thanks for taking care of this. I half expected the citation need to go unnoticed for months and months. Alatari (talk) 16:02, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm not exactly sure where I got this from and finding it again is unlikely, since most sites are now copied from my original article. I didn't keep very good records at that time. Sorry. --Auric (talk) 06:18, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for the update. --Bazzargh (talk) 12:46, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Online versions and Cite AFM

Based on this discussion I've made a few changes: links to CELT and archive.org at the same line (after each volume), and a link to {{Cite AFM}} moved to the See also-section. Hope this is an acceptable solution to all. Best regards, Finn Rindahl (talk) 10:27, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that looks good. One remaining issue is that CELT in the new text links to the wrong CELT, I'll fix that up. Bazzargh (talk) 19:42, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Aes Dana 1474-1500

Aes Dana 1474-1500 M1474.21 Gilla-Finn Mac Egan, Ollav to O'Conor Faly, and Thomas, the son of Donnell O'Coffey, died. M1474.22O'Daly of Meath, i.e. Carbry, died. M1475.17 Cormac O'Cuirnin, Preceptor of the learned of Ireland, and Gilla-na-naev, the son of Melaghlin O'Higgin, died. M1476.3 Owney, the grandson of Cathal O'Conor, Light of the wisdom of Ireland, and Chief Master of the sciences, died. M1476.13 Brian, the son of Farrell Roe O'Higgin, head of his own tribe, superintendent of the schools of Ireland, and preceptor in poetry, died on Maunday-Thursday, and was interred at Ath-leathan. M1477.3 Ailbhe, the daughter of Hugh Maguire, a woman who, a year before her death, had retired with all her fortune to the monastery of Lisgool, died. M1477.7 Mathew O'Luinin, Erenagh of Arda, a learned historian, died. M1478.1 The Bishop O'Higgin, i.e. Bishop of Mayo-na-Saxon, died. M1478.3 Thomas Duv O'Carbry, Vicar of Achadh-Urchair Aghalurcher, a wise and pious man, died. M1478.11 A great plague was brought by a ship into the harbour of Assaroe. This plague spread through Fermanagh, Tirconnell, and the province in general. Mac Ward (Godfrey) of Tirconnell died of it, and great injury was done by it through all the province. M1478.12 Macrifferty, i.e. Ciothruadh, Ollav to Maguire in poetry; Teige Finn O'Luinin, a learned physician and historian; O'Breislen, i.e. Teige, son of Owen, Ollav to Maguire in judicature, and O'Coffey, i.e. Murtough Bacagh, died. M1479.2 Piarus, the son of Nicholas O'Flanagan, who had been a canon chorister at Clogher, a parson and a prior of Culdees, a Sacristan at Devenish, an official on Lough Erne, a charitable, pious, truly hospitable, and humane man, died, after having gained the victory over the Devil and the world. M1480.2 Mac Manus Maguire, i.e. Cathal Oge, the son of Cathal More, son of Gilla-Patrick, son of Magnus, a select brughaidh, died, after the victory of Unction and Penance. M1480.10 O'Hosey, i.e. Aengus, the son of John, a learned poet, and Farrell Makeogh, another good poet, died. M1482.2 Gilchreest O'Fiaich, Vicar of Aire-Broscaigh, a learned clergyman, who had kept a house of general hospitality for the space of eleven years, died. M1482.17 Erard O'Mulconry, Ollav of Sil-Murray in history and poetry, who was learned in Latin and Irish, died, after having gained the victory over the world and the Devil, and was interred at Elphin. Seery O'Mulconry succeeded him. M1482.18 Murtough Mac Clancy, intended Ollav of Thomond, and Cosnamhach, son of Conor Oge Mac Clancy, died. M1483.8 O'Keenan, i.e. Rory, Ollav to Maguire in history, and Conor Oge Mac Clancy, Ollav of Thomond, a man accomplished in literature and poetry, died, and Hugh Mac Clancy succeeded him. M1483.9 Conor Mac-an-Brehon, intended Ollav of Muintir-Maelruain, died after a long sickness. M1484.2 John O'Farelly, a canon of the family of Drumlane, and Brian O'Farrelly, a priest who had commenced building an anchorite's cell at the Great Church of Drumlane, died. M1485.1 Nicholas O'Grady, Abbot of Tuam-Greine, a charitable and truly hospitable man, and the twelfth man who was free in Limerick, died. M1485.2 Donough Mac Coilidh, Erenagh of Bearach, who kept a house of public hospitality, died. M1485.21 Gilla-Patrick O'Higgin, the son of Brian, son of Melaghlin, a man who had kept a general house of hospitality for the mighty and the indigent, died. M1485.22 O'Cuirnin, Athairne, died. M1486.14 Neidhe O'Mulconry, head of the inhospitality of Ireland, died. It was he who solemnly swore that he would never give butter and bread together to guests. M1486.29 Teige Mac Egan, Ollav of Annaly, was slain in an abominable manner by the descendants of Irial O'Farrell. M1486.30 Flann, the son of Flann O'Donnellan, died. M1487.1 Melaghlin, son of Muruough O'Flanagan, Dean of Elphin, died; and Thomas O'Heidigein took his place. M1487.3 Brian O'Corcran, Vicar of Claoin-Inis Cleenish, and Denis Mac Gilla Coisgle, Erenagh and Vicar of Airidh-Brosca Derrybrusk, died. M1487.8 Seery O'Mulconry, Ollav of Sil-Murray, head of the cheerfulness and jocularity of the men of Ireland, died; and two Kenfinès of the tribe were set up in his place, namely, Donnell and Mulconry, the son of Torna. M1487.9 Maurice, the son of Loughlin O'Mulconry, teacher of his own art poetry, died in Tirconnell, after a long illness, and after the victory of penance, and was interred at Donegal. M1487.10 Donnell O'Dugan and his wife, daughter of O'Mulconry, died. M1487.11 O'Mullally, head of the wisdom of Hy-Many, died. M1487.21 John Mac-an-Airchinnigh, head of his own tribe, who had kept a house of general hospitality for strangers, and Erenagh of St. Patrick's at Elphin, died. M1487.24 John, the son of Conor Mac Egan, Ollav of Clanrickard, and Hugh, the son of Brian, son of Farrel Roe O'Higgin, died. M1488.2 A great plague raged in Machaire-Chonnacht, of which died Cathal Mac Edigen, Vicar of Patrick's Church, and a canon chorister in Elphin; Aengus O'Reachtadhain, Coarb of St. Finnen at Cluain Creamha; Dermot Mac Conchagaidh, a select priest; and the Deaf Vicar O'Colla. M1488.37 Farrell Mac-an-Ruagaire died. This Farrell took food like others for the space of twenty years, but had not the evacuation of his body during this time. M1488.44 Mulconry, the son of Torna O'Mulconry, died of a short fit of sickness at Cluain-na-hoidhche. M1488.45 Mulmurry, the son of Teige Oge O'Higgin, Chief Preceptor of Ireland in Poetry, and Mac Ward of Oriel, died. M1489.1 Nicholas O'Casey, Vicar of Devenish in Lough Erne, and Teige O'Maithgen, one of the monks of Boyle, died. M1489.33 An army was led by O'Conor against the sons of William O'Kelly, by which he cut down the pass of Cluainin, and cut and destroyed much corn. In revenge of this the sons of O'Kelly did many injuries to O'Mulconry and his relatives. M1489.34 Hugh, the son of O'Conor, and Owen, were taken prisoners, through treachery, by the sons of William O'Kelly. Dubhthach O'Mulconry was taken prisoner along with them, and put in confinement. M1489.40 Melaghlin, son of Loughlin O'Mulconry, died while on his bardic circuit through Munster. M1489.43 O'Fialain died. M1490.1 Mathew Mac Conaing, Vicar of Leath-ratha Abbeylara; Fergus, the son of John, son of Mathew O'Howen, Anchorite of Inis-Caoin; the Canon Mac Tiernan of Drumlane; and Gilchreest Mac-an-Fhirleighin, a young priest, who belonged to Cluain-lis-Floinnabhrait, died. M1490.15 O'Daly of Breifny, i.e. John, the son of William, who was son of Hugh, a learned poet; Rory and Hugh Magrath, the two sons of Donnell, son of Hugh Oge, the two principal learned men of the Clann-Crath; Thomas O'Lorcan, intended Ollav to O'Madden; and Finn O'Haughluinn, Chief Tympanist of Ireland, died. M1490.16 O'Higgin, i.e. John, the son of Farrell Oge, Chief Poet of Ireland, died. M1490.17 O'Cassidy of Coole in Fermanagh, and Catherine, the daughter of Conor, son of Cathal Mac Rannall, and wife of Teige, the son of Turlough Maguire, died. M1490.36 John Oge, the son of John More of Ilay, was treacherously slain by Dermot Mac Carbry, an Ultonian harper, who was one of his own servants; but Mac Carbry was quartered for this crime. M1491.9 Rory, the son of Dermot, son of Marcus, was made Magrath of Tearmann. M1491.10 Hugh and Rory, the two sons of Donnell, son of Hugh Oge, son of Randal, son of Donough Alainn Magrath, died. M1491.11 Murrough, the son of Owen Magrath, died. M1492.1 The Official O'Dwyer, i.e. Hugh, died. M1492.15 Magrath, i.e. Dermot, son of Marcus, son of Maurice, son of Nicholas, son of Andreas, Coarb of the church of St. Daveog, died. M1492.34 Hugh Mac Clancy, Chief Brehon and Professor of Law in Thomond, died. M1493.1 The Official O'Luchairen (Owen), a learned ecclesiastic, died. M1493.17 Mac Namee, i.e. Teige, the son of Conor Roe, son of Eachmarcach, an eminent poet and a good scholar, was slain by a labourer, one of his own people. i.e. the son of O'Clumhain. M1493.18 Conor, the son of O'Daly of Breifny, died. M1495.14 Mac Aghirr (Gilla-Patrick, the son of another Gilla-Patrick), died. M1495.16 O'Duigennan of Kilronan (Duffy, the son of Melaghlin, son of Matthew Glas), Ollav of Muintir-Maelruain, a learned historian, who kept a house of general hospitality, and the richest of the literati of Ireland in flocks and herds, died in his own house at Kilronan, at a venerable old age, after winning the goal from the world and the Devil. M1495.17 Donnell O'Mulconry, Ollav of Sil-Murray, died; and two O'Mulconrys were set up in his place, namely, John, son of Torna, and Donough, son of Athairne. M1495.18 Mac Ward of Tirconnell, i.e. Hugh; O'Breslen, i.e. Owen, the son of Owen, son of Petrus, Chief Brehon to Maguire; Brian, the son of Sorley Mac Cabe; and Tiernan O'Delvin, died. M1496.19 O'Cuirnin (Rory) and Owen Oge, the son of Owen, son of Hugh O'Daly,died. M1497.25 Gilla-Duv, the son of Felim Boy, was slain at Cluain-Plocain, by the descendants of Teige O'Conor. M1497.27 Teige O'Rodaghan, Coarb of St. Caillin, a man whose goodness could not be well described, by reason of its exaltedness, greatness, and vastness, died in his own house. M1498.16 O'Cuirnin, i.e. Conor Carragh, died. M1498.17 Mac Ward of Oriel died of the plague. M1499.1 Loughlin Mac Gilla-Calma, Vicar of Cuil-Maine, a wise and pious clergyman, died.

Aes Dana 1501-1534

Aes Dana 1501-1534 M1501.1 JOHN, the son of Rossa, son of Thomas Oge Maguire, who had been a canon chorister in Clogher, Parson and Erenagh in Achadh-Urchair Aghalurcher, a wise man, learned in Latin and Irish, who kept a house of general hospitality for all that stood in need of it, died in the Ides of June. M1501.15 Donnell O'Higgin, Chief Preceptor to the schools of Ireland in poetry, died, after his return from the pilgrimage of St. James. M1502.1 James, son of Rury Mac Mahon, Coarb of Clones, died. M1503.1 O'Beollain, Coarb of St Columbkille at Drumcliff, died. M1503.17 Felim, the son of Mulrony Mac Rannall, worthy heir to the chieftainship of his country, and Donough Baisileir Mac Maoiltuile, died. M1504.1 Gilla-Patrick O'Conolly (i.e. the son of Henry), Abbot of Clones, died, after having obtained the bishopric of Clogher. M1504.3 Manus, the son of Brian Mac Donough, Abbot of the Monastery of the Blessed Trinity on Lough Key, repertory and repository of the wisdom and knowledge of Connaught, died at Cill-Duibhdhuin, and was buried in the Monastery of the Blessed Trinity on Lough Key. M1504.4 Turlough Maguire, who had been Canon Chorister at Clogher, Parson of Doire Maelain Derryvullan, and Prior of Lough Derg, fell down a stone staircase at the town of Athboy, about the festival of St. Patrick, and died of the fall; and he was buried in the monastery of Cavan. M1504.5 Rory Mac Mahon, Vicar of Clones, died. M1504.11 O'Keenan, i.e. Gilla-Patrick, the son of Teige; Melaghlin, the son of Ahairne O'Hussey; O'Cassidy of Cuil (i.e. Pierce, the son of Thomas), Ollav to Maguire in physic, a man truly learned in literature and medical science, who had kept an open house of hospitality; and Andreas Magrath, son of the Coarb of Termon-Daveog Termonmagrath, a general Betagh, died. M1505.1 Donough O'Kane, Abbot of the monastery of Magh-Cosgrain, was hanged by Dermot, the son of Rory, son of Manus O'Kane; and Dermot himself was maimed for that deed. M1505.3 Laurence O'Flanagan, Prior of Devenish, died. M1505.11 The son of O'Flanagan, i.e. Cormac, the son of Cormac, died. M1505.13 Carbry, the son of Brian O'Higgin, Professor of Poetry, died in Westmeath; and Brian Oge, the son of Brian, son of Donnell Cam O'Higgin, died. M1506.1 Thomas Boy Mac Cosgraigh, Erenagh of Clones, and John O'Fiaich, Erenagh of the third part of Airech-Broscaigh Derrybrusk, died. M1506.9 Donnell O'Craidhen O'Crean, a pious and conscientious merchant, died, while hearing mass in Donegal. M1506.10 Paidin O'Mulconry, only choice of Ireland in his time for history and poetry, died. M1507.1 John Pauint, Bishop of Meath, a friar preacher, and Pierce O'Maeluire, Abbot of Clogher, died. M1507.3 O'Flanagan of Tuath-Ratha, i.e. Murtough, the son of Murtough, died. M1507.6 Felim Maguinnsenain, Official of Tirconnell, a select Brehon, an ecclesiastic eminent for piety and benevolent deeds, died on the 12th of July. M1507.18 Mac Conmidhe (Solomon, the son of John, son of Solomon), Ollav to O'Neill, an adept in rhyming, general literature, and poetry, and who kept a house of general hospitality, died on the 30th of October. M1507.19 Magrath ( Thomas, the son of Philip, son of Thomas, son of Maelmurry Oge, son of Maelmurry More); O'Cuill (Kenfaela); O'Daly Finn (Godfrey, the son of Donough); O'Daly Cairbreach (Aengus, the son of Aengus Caech); and O'Geran (i.e. John, the son of Conor), died. M1507.20 Mac Ward of Oriel, i.e. Gilla-Patrick, the son of Hugh, and Tuathal Boy, the son of Adam Garv Mac Ward, were both slain by Cu-Uladh O'Connolly and his kinsmen. M1507.22 Barry Roe, i.e. James, the son of James, went on a pilgrimage to Spain, attended by many of the chiefs of his people; and after having performed their pilgrimage they embarked on board a ship, to return home, but no further account, as to whether they survived or perished was ever received. Upon the pilgrimage aforesaid, along with Barry, was drowned Donnell, the son of Teige, son of Gilla-Michael O'Fiaich, qualified by his knowledge of Latin and poetry to become chief professor of history for Ireland and Scotland. M1508.1 Maigi Magrath, Bishop of Clonfert, a prosperous, religious, wise, and pious man, died; and David, the son of Thomas Burke, who was appointed his successor in the bishopric, died on his way from Rome. M1508.2 Thomas O'Conghalain, Bishop of Elphin, and Walter Blake, Bishop of Clonmacnoise, died. M1508.3 William Oge, the son of Art Mac Cawell, Dean of Clogher, died. He was brother of Owen, Bishop of Clogher. M1508.7 Cormac O'Keenan, a learned historian and poet, and Donough, the son of Brian, son of Philip Maguire, died. M1509.1 Brian, the son of Teige Maguinnsennain, Official of Clogher, died. M1509.11 Cormac, the son of John, son of Conor Oge Maguire; Dermot, son of Flann Mac Ward; and Teige O'Keenan, died. M1509.12Mac William of Clanrickard (Ulick, the son of Ulick, son of Rickard Oge), a man kind towards friends, and fierce towards enemies, died. M1509.13Mac an Fhiledh (Gilchreest, son of Auliffe), a learned poet, died. M1510.6 O'Fialan (Farrell), a distinguished Professor of Poetry, and Owen, the son of Brian O'Higgan, Chief Preceptor of all Ireland, died. M1510.7 Mac Ward of Tirconnell (Owen Roe) died at Inis-mac-an-Duirn. M1511.2 Thomas, the son of Andrew Mac Brady, Bishop and Erenagh of the two Breifnys during a period of thirty years; the only dignitary whom the English and Irish obeyed; a paragon of wisdom and piety; a luminous lamp, that enlightened the laity and clergy by instruction and preaching; and a faithful shepherd of the Church—after having ordained priests and persons in every degree—after having consecrated many churches and cemeteries—after having bestowed rich presents and food on the poor and the mighty, gave up his spirit to heaven on the 4th of the Calends of March (or August), which fell on a Tuesday, at Druim-da-ethiar—having gone to Breifny to consecrate a church, in the sixty-seventh year of his age—and was buried in the monastery of Cavan, the day of the week being Friday. M1511.3 Cormac Magauran, who was called Bishop in Breifny, died before Christmas. M1511.17 Duffy, the son of Duffy O'Duigennan, a learned historian, and a man of great affluence and riches, died. M1512.1 Hugh O'Maelmocheirghe, Coarb of Dromlane, was drowned. M1512.2 Pierce Mac Craidin, Dean of Clann-Hugh, died. M1512.5 Tuathal O'Clery (i.e. the O'Clery), the son of Teige Cam, a man learned in history and poetry, who kept a house of general hospitality for the indigent and the mighty, died, after unction and penance, on the twelfth of November. M1513.1 Maurice O'Fihelly, Archbishop of Tuam, a professor of divinity of the highest ecclesiastical renown, died. M1513.2 The Official Mac Congail died. M1514.1 Patrick O'Duibhleachain, Abbot of Kells, and Hugh, the son of Gilchreest O'Fiaich, Vicar of Airidhbrosca Derrybrusk, died. M1514.14 O'Daly of Corcomroe (Teige, the son of Donough, son of Teige, son of Carroll), a professor of poetry, who kept a house of general hospitality, died at Finaigh-Bheara, and was buried in the abbey of Corcomroe. M1515.1 Meanma Mac Carmac, Bishop of Raphoe, died. M1515.2 Owen, the son of Art, son of John, son of Art Mac Cawell, Bishop of Clogher, died. M1515.3 Gilla-Patrick O'Hultachain, Parson of Achadh-beithe Aghavea, died. M1515.8 Teige O'Higgin and Walter Walsh, two priests, were drowned alongside of Lisgool. M1516.15 Turlough, son of Brian Uaine O'Gallagher, Coarb of Carraic, died. M1518.4 O'Hosey (Ciothruaidh, the son of Athairne), a learned poet, who kept a house of general hospitality, died. M1518.10 The son of Mac Manus (Redmond, the son of Cathal Oge Mac Manus), a charitable and humane man, died. M1519.2 Edmond Duv O'Dwyer, Abbot of Assaroe, died on the first day of November, and was buried at Donegal, in the Franciscan habit, which habit he chose rather than that of a monk. M1519.3 The Coarb of Cluain-Conmhaicne, head of the hospitality and generous entertainment of the churches of Conmaicne, died. M1519.10 Maoilin, son of Torna O'Mulconry, OIlav of Sil-Murray, a man full of prosperity and learning, who had been selected by the Geraldines and English to be their Ollav, in preference to all the chief poets of Ireland, and who had obtained jewels and riches of all from whom he had asked them, died in Mainistir-derg in Teffia. M1519.11 Ferceirtne O'Cuirnin, a confidential servant of Owen O'Rourke, and head of the literary men of his tribe, and Donnell Glas O'Cuirnin, died. M1520.1 Nicholas, the son of Pierce O'Flanagan, Parson of Devenish, was unjustly removed from his place by the influence of the laity, and died at Bohoe. M1520.11 O'Cassidy (Felim, the son of Teige), ollav to the descendants of Philip Maguire, in physic, and Rory, the son of Donough, was son of Hugh Maguire, died. M1521.1 The Prior of Devenish died, Redmond, son of the Parson of Inis-Maighe-Samh, a clerical, kind, charitable, and humane man. M1522.4 There were also slain there two of O'Donnell's ollaves, namely, Dermot, the son of Teige Cam O'Clery, a learned historian and poet, a man who kept an open house of general hospipitality for the mighty and the indigent, and the son of Mac Ward (Hugh, the son of Hugh), with several others besides these. This was on the 11th day of June. M1522.13 Master Felim O'Corcran, a learned doctor of the canon law, died. M1523.1 John O'Maenaigh, who was parson of Geshill, and a canon chorister at Kildare, a clergyman of the greatest name and renown in the upper part of Leinster, died. M1524.22 John Boy, the son of Andrew Magrath, a man of note, a prosperous man, and very wealthy, died. M1524.23 O'Breslen (Owen Oge, the son of Owen), Ollav to Maguire in judicature, died. M1525.24 Mac Rithbheartaigh (i.e. Cuconnaught), Ollav to Maguire in poetry, died. M1525.3 The Dean, the son of Brian Roe Mac Conmidhe Mac Namee, who kept a house of general hospitality, died. M1525.6 Catherine, the daughter of O'Duigennan, died on the 9th of June, and was honourably buried in the monastery of Donegal. M1527.1 Laurence, Abbot of Lisgool, died. M1527.8 O'Clery (Gilla-Reagh, the son of Teige Cam), a scientific adept in history, poetry, and literature, and a man of consideration, wealth, prosperity, and great power, died in the habit of St. Francis, on the 8th day of March. M1527.9 The physician O'Donlevy (Donough, son of Owen), a Doctor of Medicine, and learned in other sciences, a man of great affluence and wealth, who kept a house of general hospitality, died on the 30th of September. M1527.10 Mac Manus Maguire (Thomas Oge, the son of Cathal Oge, son of Cathal Oge), Biatach of Seanadh, and Official of Lough Erne, a wise man, skilled in the sciences, a man of great fame and renown throughout his neighbourhood, died. M1527.12 William, the son of Andrew Magrath, a man of wealth and prosperity, died. M1529.8 Cosnamhach, the son of Farrell, son of Donough Duv Mac Egan, the most distinguished adept in the Fenechas, poetry, and lay Brehonship, in all the Irish territories, died, and was interred at Elphin. M1529.9 Mac Egan of Ormond (Donnell, the son of Hugh, son of Donnell), head of the learned of Leath-Mhogha in Feneachus and poetry, died. M1529.10 Owen, the son of Felim Mac Manus, and his wife, Grainne, daughter of Conor Maguire, died. M1530.15 Hugh O'Flanagan, son of the Parson of Inis-maighe-Samh, a paragon of wisdom and science, and a merry and comely man, who kept a good house of hospitality, died. M1531.12 Tuathal, the son of O'Donnellan of Machaire-Maenmaighe, and Gilla-Patrick, the son of Adam Mac Ward, died. M1531.17 James O'Flanagan, the son of the Parson of Innis, a man of great name and renown in his own country, died. M1532.8 The Coarb of Fenagh, i.e. Brian, died. M1532.9 Cormac O'Hultachain, Erenach of Achadh-Beithe Aghavea, died. M1532.12 O'Mulconry (Torna, the son of Torna) died; and Conor, the son of Donnell Roe, was styled O'Mulconry in his place. He, too, died shortly afterward. M1534.6 Cormac, the son of Farrell Mac Ward, a learned poet, the best of his tribe in his time for alms-deeds and humanity, died, after unction and penance. M1534.7 Mulmurry Mac Keogh, intended Ollav of Leinster in poetry, a learned man, skilled in various arts, who kept a good house of hospitality, was accidentally killed by his mother's brothers, the sons of O'Toole. M1534.8 Manus Boy O'Duigennan was strangled in the night by his own wife. M1535.8 Mac Auliffe gained a great battle, in which were slain the Lord of Claenglais and Mac Gibbon, with a large battalion of the Clann-Sheehy. Maelmurry, son of Brian Mac Sweeny, was slain in the commencement and fury of the conflict.

again Calendar

I'm trying to read in the moment "The Four Masters: Annals of the Kingdom of Ireland Vol. 1 - 7" (2nd Edition 1856) and Duald Mac Fibris "Chronicon Scotorum" (printed 1866). in both Books Years/Dates are given in A.M. but till yet I didn't see when the Startpoint is. I'm not a Specialist, not an Historian - is there anywhere a reliable Site somewhere lisiting the different A.M.-Starts of different irish chronical works? As far as I learned from Wikipedia the Timespan of the Annals of Clonmacnoise (e.g.) starts from 4004 BC, but the Annals of Rioghachta Éireann should start at 2242 BC (this Articles I have read a couple of years ago, I will look now if this information changed as so often in Wikipedia). These were just examples, so there seems to be big differences in sight, when the A.M.-Point is. Please forgive me my bad english - I hope I could express myself clear enough. It would be kind if someone could give me an answer soon. -- Hartmann Schedel ^cheers 12:43, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

POV/OR in Importance Section

"The reliability and usefulness of the Annals as a historical source has sometimes been questioned by presentists on the grounds that they were limited to accounts of the births, deaths and activities of the Gaelic nobility of Ireland and often ignore wider social trends or events. The reality of life in the Gaelic world was that it was a patrilineal and hierarchical society, and naturally the Annals reflect this."

This is clearly someone's biased academic opinion. The term "presentist" by its nature implies that the article is dismissing the other point of view as invalid. On top of that, opinions like this have to be referenced. Tarchon (talk) 02:36, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

I agree this section is mostly a point of view that adds nothing to the article. It doesn't even get the facts correct. Ireland was probably the least patrilinear society of the age. It was however written by Catholic Priests and as such almost certainly had a more patrilinear bent. That would be true of every bit of written history done throughout Europe and later the US until the 20th century. Do we discount all of written history then before the 1900s? Twaddle I say. Doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. Celtic hackr (talk) 04:24, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Even if it was a patrilineal and hierarchical society that does mean that women, non-nobles and wider social trends and events didn't exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.61.21.2 (talk) 12:10, 29 January 2015 (UTC)