Talk:Anne Mills Archbold

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Aoidh (talk) 21:19, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

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1903 portrait of Archbold

• ... that Anne Mills Archbold was one of the first Western women to visit Tibet? Source: "she was one of the first western women to visit Tibet" from: "Anne M. Archbold (U.S. National Park Service)". National Park Service. Retrieved 8 June 2023.
  • ALT1: ... that after separating from her husband Anne Mills Archbold left Britain on a Standard Oil steamship, possibly to avoid her children becoming wards of court? Source: "Anne divorced Armar Saunderson in 1922. American papers claimed that she and her children were "held virtually captive" by her husband and that she was "rescued" along with her children on a Standard Oil Steamer. The divorce was certainly bitter and Anne may have "stolen" her children from England as they had been made wards of the court to prevent her from taking them from English soil." from the NPS source
  • ALT2: ... that two lion cubs that Anne Mills Archbold brought to America as pets on the Lusitania became exhibits on at the Bronx Zoo? Source: "In 1908, the newspapers were full of news about passengers arriving on the ship Lusitania. The Saunderson family were passengers, but Lydia and her two pet lion cubs were the stars of the show. Baby Lydia (or Princess Lydia as the papers dubbed her) was seen playing on decks with two lion cubs who had been captured alive by Anne while she and her husband had been hunting big game in Africa. When the ship docked in New York, Lydia and Anne were distraught at not being able to take the lions home with them. The cubs had to remain in quarantine on the docks and were eventually taken to the Bronx Zoo where they were star attractions for many years." from the NPS source
  • ALT3: ... that Anne Mills Archbold funded several legal challenges against plans to construct highways through what is now Glover-Archbold Park in Washington DC? Source: The NPS source notes her opposition to several schemes, payments to lawyers in three cases (1956, 1959, 1962) are detailed in the Court of Claims source (Claims, United States Court of; Bernhardt, Audrey (1972). Cases Decided in the United States Court of Claims ... with Report of Decisions of the Supreme Court in Court of Claims Cases. The Court. pp. 281–282.)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Henry de Hinuber

Created by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 11:57, 21 June 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Anne Mills Archbold; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• New enough and long enough; QPQ done. Earwig found 50% similarity (very high) to its first source, from NPS.gov; however, most of this is from a long and properly marked quote. There are some shorter phrases in common, and a fair amount of paraphrasing, but I think not enough to be problematic, especially because the US government source is public domain. No other copying found. The lead is unsourced but appears only to summarize later sourced material; everything later is sourced. ALT0 is ok and properly sourced. ALT1 is problematic: it says the travel may have been to prevent her children becoming wards, but the source says the children were in fact declared wards and she may have removed them illegally. ALT2 is ok but by DYK rules would need added footnotes on each sentence used as a hook claim. ALT3 seems to me the least interesting of the hooks, and is a synthesis of multiple sourced claims rather than a single event. Good to go with ALT0 or ALT2 (with the caveat that ALT2 requires additional footnoting). Image is PD, a little hard to read at thumbnail size. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:06, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

1903 portrait of Archbold

Hi David Eppstein, thanks for the review. I must have misread the NPS so many times on the wards of court bit, I've now corrected the article, thnaks for picking that up. I don't think it is synthesis to combine information from two sources about the same legal cases but agree it's probably the least interesting hook. I have duplicated the refs relating to ALT2 to comply with the rule. I've cropped the image which may improve its usefulness - Dumelow (talk) 05:34, 22 June 2023 (UTC)