Talk:Antacid/Archive 1

Archive 1

note

User:Jrleighton added the {{limitedgeographicscope}} template (Wikipedia:WikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias), but did not start a talk page, so I'm doing it. The edit summary states that all brand examples are the U.S. names. Linked pages do not include many brand names, so a non-US editor will have to add brand names from other countries, or take some other action. JohnWhitlock 18:25, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

history

I'd like to see a history section for this article, currently it makes no reference to when antacids were discovered or first used as such, or anything of the sort. --illumi (talk) 02:30, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

What's in the tablets other than the base ...

I weighed a '500 mg' calcium carbonate Tums tablet and it weighted 2 grams, that means that three quarters of the tablet is something else ... anyone know what it is ... is it just sugar or is there some other filler? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.150.200.116 (talk) 12:46, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Traditional Antacids

Can someone add traditional substances used by people around the world as antacids? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.1.181.126 (talk) 18:00, 16 April 2011 (UTC) many people died from this the couse was because a heartbrun — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.2.160.177 (talk) 08:19, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Student edits?

User:Nakita Blanco291 your edits are adding content that is unsourced or based on sources that are not OK per WP:MEDRS, and in your most recent edit you removed the strongest kind of source we can use here in Wikipedia. Please come here and talk - if you don't understand what you are doing wrong, I can explain. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 00:54, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

brands

unclear to me if this should be in the article at all; in any case it is unsourced. it is a spam magnet. moving here per WP:VERIFY

Some well-known antacid brands

Antacids are generally a chemical salt of an alkaline ion and a counterion, as shown in the table below. The alkaline ion is generally bicarbonate but may also be hydroxide.

Product	Alkaline ion	Counterion
		Aluminium	Calcium	Magnesium	Potassium	Sodium
Alka-Seltzer	Bicarbonate				X	X
Andrews Antacid	Bicarbonate		X
Brioschi	Bicarbonate					X
Equate	Bicarbonate	X	X	X
Maalox (liquid)	Bicarbonate	X		X
Maalox (tablet)	Bicarbonate		X
Milk of Magnesia	Hydroxide			X
Pepto-Bismol	Bismuth subsalicylate
Pepto-Bismol Children’s	Bicarbonate		X
Rennie (tablets)	Bicarbonate		X	X
Rolaids	Bicarbonate		X	X
Tums	Carbonate		X
Mylanta	Hydroxide	X		X
Eno	Bicarbonate					X
Gaviscon	Bicarbonate		X			X
Droxygel	Hydroxide	X		X
Gelusil	Hydroxide	X		X
Quick-Eze	Carbonate		X	X

- Jytdog (talk) 21:19, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

A listing of the formulations of antacids definitely belongs in this article. It is surprising that there isn't one.

A listing of common brands in major markets would be helpful to users. I agree that drawing the line between "common" and "uncommon" brands is problematic, but I don't see that it's problematic to start with the most common ones, and add more later.

I agree that we should look for reliable sources for such lists, (and there would be nothing wrong with adding a citation-needed template) but I don't worry too much about being a "spam magnet". I don't see much evidence for this problem in the history of this article. What makes you think it is a problem? --Macrakis (talk) 22:34, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

the spam magnet issue a problem across all drug related articles. sorry you are unaware of it. Jytdog (talk) 22:39, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

What exactly is the issue? That we'll get too long a list of obscure brands? That doesn't seem so horrible. It can always be separated out into its own article if necessary, like Ibuprofen brand names if it gets too long. But we don't need to do that preemptively. --Macrakis (talk) 23:29, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Eno merge

Not sure about this. The result is that the article kind of features this one brand which is not the intention I know. The content in the Eno article was about the brand and its history... Jytdog (talk) 18:29, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

What we can do on this? I have seen many brand pages have their own Wikipedia page and I think ENO should be one of them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravi Wildnet (talk • contribs) 06:27, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Here is one of Ravi's edits [1]. They copied parts of it more or less from the ad page[2] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:39, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

I hear that. It is distinct from my OP. Jytdog (talk) 20:51, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

I came to this page trying to find out both what fruit salts are and what their history is. I agree the page is unbalanced with only the Eno's stuff there. I have drafted a stand-alone page on fruit salts because the history is interesting, and I'm planning to do a bio page on James Crossley Eno as well. (Someone else can do the Eno corporate page; that's not in my areas of interest.) With those two, the Eno's stuff should be well enough covered to be removed from the antacid page entirely (apart from under 'see also'). Since I'm not a chemist, I'd appreciate feedback on the fruit salts draft from anyone willing to take the time. Cheers, Alafarge (talk) 17:20, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Eno

By example with the Algeldrate, I converted the Eno subsection to a generic discussion of the effervescent class of antacids. The Eno subsection seemed to me to be a straight-up advertisement for the brand-name product. There was already an Alka-Seltzer Wikipedia article. Alka-Seltzer is the massively-dominant, effervescent antacid in the United States, while Eno is unknown there. In agreement with the Alka-Seltzer example, I converted the Eno redirect page, which redirected here, into a full article, by moving all of the text here to there. Then I wrote a new generic Effervescent subsection here. Nick Beeson (talk) 13:15, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Works for me. We should have link here to the article. Eno (drug). SlightSmile 14:32, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Gaviscon and aluminium

The section on Algeldrate implies that Gaviscon contains aluminium hydroxide. However the label on my bottle of Gaviscon (bought in NZ, made in UK by Reckitt Benckiser, expiry Nov18) states "Does not contain aluminium, sugar, gluten or artificial colouring," and "Each 10mL dose of oral liquid suspension contains 500mg sodium alginate, 213mg sodium bicarbonate and 325mg sodium carbonate." Sah64 (talk) 01:26, 19 May 2017 (UTC) sah64

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Antacid

antacid is not a formic acid Why As81000 (talk) 14:50, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

It's not clear what you are asking. Are you confusing the acid produced by ants (thinking maybe "ant acid"), which is called formic acid, with a substance which neutralizes stomach acidity, which is called an antacid? Deli nk (talk) 15:00, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Adverse effect (overdose)

Since it is mentioned in wiki article on sodium bicarbonate (baking soda), about the risk of poisoning due to overdose, is there a risk of antacid overdose beside maybe indigestion due to low stomach acid level? For example if blood is too alkaline, does it pose any health issue? YogiHalim (talk) 17:17, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Drug-drug interaction

Since this is a common medication that people use for heartburn, there should be a drug-drug interaction section Nataliealsalek (talk) 15:59, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Article Overhaul

Hello all, this article was a topic I edited as per the Wiki Education Foundation program. I made edits in all existing headings, and added the Interactions heading as it did not exist prior. I also removed the section on Algeldrate under the Formulations heading. My preceptor and I found most of the information in that section to be specific to the UK, and most of the remaining information had already been stated previously in the article. The only information there that I could see had not been previously mentioned was regarding the pH changes that aluminum hydroxide produces relative to some other salts, which is something that could potentially be added to the Mechanism of Action heading if anyone believes it is important enough to mention. If anyone feels as though algeldrate is deserving of its own subheading, feel free to undo that edit. --Doxycycle (talk) 23:09, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

एंटासिड

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Gaviscon

Gaviscon was redirected without discussion in 2016 to Antacid. Gaviscon is possibly the most widely used over-the-counter and prescribed antacid/heartburn/reflux remedy in the UK. If Maalox is allowed an article, why not Gaviscon which seems to me to be a highly likely target for Wikipedia searches? Gaviscon is Wikilinked from 72 pages including GERD. In addition to its existing sources, admittedly many of which are primary, reliable sources are at least available about it by the UK government NHS, and the US government articles and the Thai government's FDA site, and peer reviewed papers, and in Le VIDAL, the official French pharmacopeia. At one stage (around 2005) , according to the UK Govt. Office of Fair Trading 49% of the sales of Gaviscon were through NHS prescritpions]. So, see WP:MEDRS:

Ideal sources for biomedical information include: review articles (especially systematic reviews) published in reputable medical journals; academic and professional books written by experts in the relevant fields and from respected publishers; and guidelines or position statements from national or international expert bodies. – (The bolding is mine)

If Maalox is allowed an article, why not Gaviscon which seems to me to be a highly likely target for Wikipedia searches? If there is no response within 7 days I will add the NHS and NCBI sources and republish it in mainspace. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:34, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

What is Antacid

An antacid is a substance which neutralizes stomach acidity and is used to relieve heartburn, indigestion or an upset stomach. Some antacids have been used in the treatment of constipation and diarrhea. Currently marketed antacids contain salts of aluminum, calcium, magnesium, or sodium. 111.91.28.56 (talk) 13:19, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

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ant acid is the formic acid

I note that there is a hatnote to this effect. Klbrain (talk) 14:12, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Resolved