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Hatred for iranians is not necessarily ambiguous with hatred for persians
editPlease don't confuse the two Persian Lad (talk) 23:03, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- I think you are confusing "hatred for an ethnic group (i.e. "Persians")" with "hatred for a country/polity (Iran and Persia being synonymous). "Anti-Persian sentiment" is found in many WP:RS in context of various periods of Iranian history, including the Achaemenid, the Safavid and Qajar periods, with the latter two not even being of "ethnic Persian origin".
- This is what a quick search showed (there's much more):
- "Though by 1653 the Safavids had managed to make Kandahar their own, their reassertion of city control bred much anti-Persian sentiment." -- Abbas Amanat (2017). Iran: A Modern History. Yale University Press. p. 134
- "Anti-Cambyses or anti-Persian sentiment possibly emerged when certain priests had become dissatisfied with Cambyses and the Persian occupation (...)" -- Gene R. Garthwaite. (2005). The Persians. Wiley. p. 32
- "During the interwar era, sometimes virulent anti-Persian rhetoric infused the pronouncements of Arab policymakers such as Sati al-Husri, yet his Western biographer and renowned Arabist, William Cleveland, made little mention of his anti-Persian prejudices." -- Matthew K. Shannon, ed. (2022). American-Iranian Dialogues: From Constitution to White Revolution, C. 1890s-1960s. Bloomsbury Academic. p. 75
- "Moreover, of the many assurances of anti-Persian sentiment from Georgians, Transcaucasian khans, and Armenians, only those of the Georgians seemed reliable." -- George A. Bournoutian (1992). The Khanate of Erevan Under Qajar Rule, 1795-1828. Mazda Publishers. p. 69
- - LouisAragon (talk) 00:32, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- The anti-Persian bias in the lead is obvious. Iranians includes people more than just Persians or the natives of Fars/Persis/Parsa. Why is there a separate article for anti-Kurdish sentiment collective hatred for Iranians is equated with just Persians. We could equally equate anti-Iranian sentiment with anti-Kurdish sentiment or anti-Azeri sentiment just as well.--Persian Lad (talk) 23:56, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- Turks commonly hate Iranian Persians but are simultaneously pro-Iranian Azeri so this does not add up.--Persian Lad (talk) 00:23, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I think you're thinking too deep into it. I honestly doubt that someone who hates Iran and Iranians would even care to give their ethnicity a thought. This article clearly demonstrates that. --HistoryofIran (talk) 01:28, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
Bias in the “Turkic World” part
editIn relation of the Azerbaijani part, sources of footnotes 128 and 139 are of either Armenian or Persian authors, who may have anti-Azerbaijani sentiments themselves. This is biased and an implicit misrepresentation. 81.246.83.64 (talk) 20:09, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- @81.246.83.64 Actually they are not and they're from the republic of Azerbaijan. It might be a hard pill to swallow but the place you are from was not even called Azerbaijan when MohammadAmin Rasoolzadeh came to power. Virtually all historical sources about Azerbaijan are in Persian and when you erase Persian from there you can feed whatever lies you want to those people. Historical Azerbaijan was only defined as a province in Iran and its culture a subcategory of Iranian culture. You can read Nizami -the national poet of "Azerbaijan"- and see for yourself if you don't believe me. Espedar (talk) 19:54, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Awful grammar
editThe quality of this article’s writing is atrocious and severely diminishes the legitimacy of its content. I suggest that a banner be put up to show that article might not be fully up to Wikipedia’s standards. 2001:4BB8:190:293C:93D:CE1C:7E7B:2554 (talk) 14:31, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Discrimination ?
editAcccoridng to our definition, discrimination is "Discrimination is the process of making unfair or prejudicial distinctions between people ...". I can see very little of that here, so I removed the sidebar. Rsk6400 (talk) 05:21, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Israel
editI just removed the whole section. The conflict between Israel and Iran is between the states, not between the peoples. So it doesn't match the definition given in the lead section. Rsk6400 (talk) 15:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC)