Talk:Antirrhinum

Re-write (2004)

The major rewrite just completed was done by me - it took so long the system logged me out while I was doing it. seglea 21:40, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

A major rewrite was in order. An excellent job ! JoJan 23:40, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

ITIS classification

Changed the wording about ITIS to reflect thay they only deal with species native to or naturalised in the USA; if they detailed the other European species in sect. Antirrhinum (not mentioned at all, even as non-accepted names), they would almost certainly accept them in their circumscription of the genus. - MPF 14:03, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Request for better photograph

Please upload a higher-resolution photo. (Wanderer099 (talk) 19:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC))

I should have one ready in about 3 months :-) (Citruswinter (talk) 21:14, 11 March 2012 (UTC))

I like the main photograph, but can we get some that are NOT from Pakistan too? ExpatSalopian (talk) 04:09, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

That photo of "Antirrhinum" from Eastern Siberia is definitely NOT Antirrhinum. It is a member of the Orchis genus - I would not venture to say exactly which species, since I am no expert in East Siberian flora, but once again, NOT Antirrhinum! Myouzeek (talk) 21:10, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Inline citations

The references at the end of this article should probably be made into inline citations if possible, or supplemented if the current sources can't be pinned down accurately enough for that. See Wikipedia:Citing sources for the guidelines. Pertusaria (talk) 12:43, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Etymology

wikt:ἀντί doesn't mean like. I don't think the reference can be considered authoritative. DCDuring (talk) 14:52, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

The translation here is correct. In this case, the prefix 'anti-' is not used in the sense of 'opposite of ...', but in the sense of 'exact counterpart of ...'. Consider for example the greek given name Antipatros which means 'just like his father'. Now consider again the poor newborn looking exactly like his in-law uncle Christos... And while English speaking people see a dragon, in Germany the flower is called 'Löwenmäulchen' (lion's mouth). -- 2003:70:CE71:9742:F5BC:FDB6:6A23:1DC0 (talk) 14:49, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Wiktionary has an unusually large number of references to support our definition of ἀντί, which includes the sense "equivalent to", which is not exactly "like", but close. Can we find a good source to bolster the etymology shown here? BTW, an image illustrating the supposed resemblance wouldn't hurt. DCDuring (talk) 11:11, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

I think @DCDuring has a point. There are few etymological examples that I've been able to find showing that "anti-" has much to do with "like". True enough, "antipater" is an example of "like the father". I'm also not an etymologist.

More importantly, the citation is not authoritative. If there's a better citation of out there, link it (I can't find one). Otherwise, I think it's fair to mark this one as needing improvement. Jasonschock (talk) 17:16, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

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