Talk:Anxhela Peristeri

Anxhela Peristeri

I have added documented information to an article (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anxhela_Peristeri) that her father is of Greek origin and this is also proven with the link to an interview with her: https: // eurovisionfun. com / en / 2020/12 / anxhela-peristeri-karma-will-remain-in-albanian-for-eurovision-video. The administrator / editor laof 2017 deleted the change! That was important information about the singer's biography !! Please help me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelos-Philip M. (talk • contribs) 15:36, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

she said that also in greek language ,which she speaks fluently..the last name is greek and she and her family leave in Greece! She is an orthodox christian als well..! I send an email to the interviewtaker to ask her to comment and to show her all this discussion! I also asked the greek x factor (she partipipate there for her Biografy..)

--Angelos-Philip M. (talk) 17:45, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

This inaccuracy was taken from an interview here [1], during which Peristeri did not confirmed that however, there are also no reliable Albanian sources who discusses her "Greek" origin. Thank you!--Lorik17 (talk) 16:11, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Lorik17 for my understanding, the Escbeat article makes the claim, but when watching the original interview, the claim is not supported? –xeno^talk 17:25, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello xeno, yes that's the case the singer didn't confirmed that during the interview. I unfortunately couldn't find any other reliable references, except the articles who discusses Peristeri's experiences with racism and discrimination because of her Albanian origin.--Lorik17 (talk) 17:52, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

BLP

Veneta1 claims to be an official representative of Anxhela Peristeri. WP:BLP concerns come up when an article about a living person discusses something which they themselves have denied about their identity. What I have verified is that she did put forward a claim that her great-grandfather is Greek and later when asked by Greek media if she is Greek she answered that Jo une jam shqiptare, une dhe prinderit e mi kemi lindur ne Shqiperi, me Greqine me lidh prejardhja e larget dhe fakti qe kam punuar (No, I am Albanian, my parents and I have been born in Albania. What connects me to Greece is a distant origin and the fact that I have worked there). I don't think that @Iaof2017: or @Resnjari: are wrong, but we should change Her grandfather is of Greek origin to During an interview in Greece she claimed that one of her great-grandparents is of Greek origin. In another interview in Greece, when asked if she considers herself Greek, she answered that she is Albanian and her connection to Greece comes from a distant origin @Veneta1: can you tell us what is the official position of Anxhela Peristeri?--Maleschreiber (talk) 17:08, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

I am personally ok with the proposition shared above by Maleschreiber. But to consider the words of an anonymous editor who claims to be an official representative of Anxhela Peristeri as real, when he/she is removing already sourced content pertaining to ethnicity such as here and elsewhere (Anxhela Peristeri, Dua Lipa), is problematic. Besides, there is a proper way for people who want to edit their own biographies, namely by sending an email to WP:OTRS, and i assume there has to be some sort of verification of the person making the request. Demetrios1993 (talk) 17:56, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello everyone and greetings, as someone who is closely working with Anxhela Peristeri on her Eurovision journey, personally knowing her and her family, including her parents and also another famous relative Leftion Peristeri (reporter at RTV Ora news, easily verifiable), Anxhela's origins are Albanian, her grandfather was from Vithkuqi and held businesses in Greece as well. After returning from the United States as most of Korca's emigrants, he unfortunately got sick and died on his way back. Anxhela has claimed in many media outlets regarding her descent. It is nothing personal, but to claim one has Greek descent and yet has been discriminated for her Albanian descent is a bit funny, right? I have posted recent links that seem to be ignored, maybe a personal agenda? Awaiting your response. Veneta1 (talk) 18:11, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello Maleschreiber, thank you for your participation. I also agree with your proposition mostly for the reason to avoid future conflicts and disagreements regarding that delicate topic. And to you Veneta1, there is no personal agenda behind all this I mostly reverted you because your claims had no significant evidences for example in this case here. As we all know articles should be based mainly on reliable sources so that's it!--Lorik17 (talk) 21:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

A small note that should be added after listening to both her interviews is that her paternal great-grandfather (not one of her great-grandparents) was the one who was Greek (not of Greek origin), from whom she also inherited her surname. Specifically in the interview she says, Ο προπάππους μου ήταν Έλληνας, οπότε και το επίθετό μου είναι Περιστέρη, είναι Ελληνικό., which literally translates as My great-grandfather was Greek, hence the surname Peristeri, which is Greek.. Thus what i am proposing is the following: During an interview in Greece she said that her paternal great-grandfather was Greek, from whom she also inherited the surname Peristeri. In another interview in Greece, when asked if she considers herself Greek, she answered that she is Albanian and her connection to Greece comes from a distant ancestor, namely her great-grandfather.. That's actually more in-line with what she said. Demetrios1993 (talk) 12:42, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

I have no disagreement with what Demetrios proposed. @Veneta1: Wikipedians write articles within the boundaries of available sources. Anxhela Peristeri has made these comments. We're not discussing why she did so or if it's true - what matters is that these are her own words. Now, if she refuted her comments afterwards, it's something that should be reported. Has she released a statement where she refutes her comment that her great-grandfather is Greek? --Maleschreiber (talk) 22:15, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

To Maleschreiber and Veneta1, Peristeri officially made a statement on her latest television appearance that her great-grandfather was Greek; so I think everything is clear now. Greetings--Lorik17 (talk) 14:09, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Iaof2017 Everything is clear - I don't think that the information about her great-grandfather can be removed.--Maleschreiber (talk) 10:58, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

You're absolutely right Maleschreiber.--Lorik17 (talk) 19:27, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Structure

@Iaof2017: Just so we don't get off on the wrong foot, I'm going to address your reverts and my edits. My edits are purely of a WP:COPYEDIT and MOS nature.

1. Television programs (such as those of her singing contest participation) need to be italicized, see MOS:ITALICTITLE

2. Articles when including sufficient amount of text needs to be subdivided by headings, see Template:Biography#Biography and Wikipedia:Artist biography article template. Hence my separation of "Life and career" into "Early life" and "Career" sections.

3. This source [2] is what I've removed because it is not reliable, it's a blog with no expounded information and seems to have text formatting errors as well. The line in question already includes a more reliable citation, so the other is unnecessary.

4 She was born in Korçë, People's Republic of Albania, the use of "then People's..." seems unnecessary. See the article for Vladimir Putin it does not state "then Soviet Union". And PR Albania and modern Albania share roughly the same borders; see the article for Muammar Gaddafi, it states he was born in Italian Libya and died in Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, neither of which specifies current Libya. – DA1 (talk) 21:38, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

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