Talk:Apollo Quiboloy

Notability

Since somebody tried to speedy this, apparently the notability isn't obvious. The fellow's a TV evangelist who is carried nationally in the Phillipines and internationally via satellite. The Google test is best applied to first-world topics that appeal to the Internet set. For more info on the fellow, search his local paper and you'll find a number of articles. William Pietri 07:09, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

• That was me. I'll grant that

38 of about 45 from www.sunstar.com.ph for Apollo quiboloy with Safesearch on

from a (critical) local news outlet in a city of >1M people, is more significant than the G-test

230 of about 316 for Quiboloy

that i cited in my ProD nom, but i doubt that the burden of proof of verifiable notability has been met. I'm not inclined at the moment to lead the charge on AfD, even tho i'll weigh again & vote on AfD, if i'm notified when someone nom's him.
--Jerzy•t 06:28, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I've visited the Philippines the last several summers, and the guy is definitely a household name there. He is very notable from a Filipino perspective. CaliforniaKid 07:28, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Not worth anything by way of verification. But perhaps should make the bio's supporters hopeful of finding verification.
--Jerzy•t 03:06, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

In terms of notability, he IS indeed quite notable and a household name along with Eddie Villanueva and Mike Velarde. All of them are televangelists and famous for staging prayer rallies which draw in thousands of people (they once bought airtime from the two main Philippine national TV stations as well - GMA 7 and ABS CBN, which means they have a nationwide reputation). They have enough adherents that even Philippine presidential candidates court them for votes ( http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/insights/05/11/10/religious-blocs-fail-deliver ). They are also notorious for making wild predictions on the coming apocalpyse as well as messianic claims. If people like Ted Haggard can get their own wikipedia articles, why not him? Just because you haven't heard of him, doesn't mean he is not notable. Seriously, ask any filipino. The name Quiboloy is as recognizable as Pacquiao.--Astepintooblivion (talk) 10:57, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• There do seem to be a large number of unsourced statements in this article, both positive and negative toward him. Pillcrow (talk) 00:45, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Good Article.

Nice Article thanks to the press. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.68.114 (talk) 07:20, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

the Kingdom of Jesus Christ, The Name Above Every Name, Inc. article?

Should there be a separate article on the Kingdom of Jesus Christ, The Name Above Every Name, Inc.? I'm not sure if this movement is important enough to warrant a Wiki article. --Bruce Hall (talk) 06:29, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

its really just the name above the door, that's how i'd explain it. These (and Keeper's Club international, KLC, Krusty Krab) are fronts for the tithing and labor trafficking op. Lots of his followers say they work for Krusty Krab in Facebook. That is his name because he is a greedy (censored word)

A controversy section?

Should there be a controversy section? Perhaps such a section would be better placed in a new article on his church, the Kingdom of Jesus..., where there could be a section on beliefs and controversies. The Pastor is a VERY controversial figure and one of the most prominent religious figures in the country. That controversy will drive traffic to Wikipedia. People will come here looking for information about him and why he and his church is controversial. That controversy though would be better placed in an article on the Kingdom of Jesus... with only a reference from this page, say as a sub-section entitled "Beliefs and Controversy" where it could say "See the main article". There should an information on his or his church's beliefs including controversies somewhere on Wikipedia. --Bruce Hall (talk) 07:07, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

It's interesting that neither he nor the church have an article in tl.WP. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:55, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Dangerous Pastor Quiboloy, the leader of the Kingdom of Jesus Christ Sect, is currently hiding to evade trafficking charges, causing a major scandal that is shaming the entire Philippine justice system. There are reports suggesting that he might be hiding in various countries, including Dubai, Canada, United Kingdom, and the USA. The ramifications of his actions are significant, as authorities from multiple countries are now involved in the search for his whereabouts. This situation has brought international attention to the case and has raised concerns about the extent of his influence and the potential implications of his actions on a global scale. Also the Pastor is a friend of ex president Duterte who is on the verge of receiving an arrest warrant for crimes against humanity.

Isnt it time that Wiki fixes all the mis-information on this Criminal's page ? His victims are children and gullible adults, who will read the page and believe what he says because the page grants him all kind of false titles and delusions all made up by some power hungry, depraved individual. He's not Jesus or God he's mortal and wanted for mortal sins. He'll be judged in this life or the next one thats for sure

Quiboloy or Qui-boloy?

The first time I saw the second spelling I thought it might be a typo, but it appears twice. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 02:47, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

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PACQ

In several external articles about this person, he is referred to as "PACQ", short for Pastor Apollo Carreon Quiboloy. Soulrefrain (Talk) 00:38, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

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FBI Most Wanted list

Is there a reason why the only time it’s mentioned that he’s currently on the F.B.I.’s Most Wanted list is in the section about a YouTuber helping bring the matter to light? Perhaps in the starting or at worst the second paragraph, it should be mentioned.2601:405:4000:1F50:C2E:2B86:B5D5:90F5 (talk) 01:49, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

It's a bit confusing. While Quiboloy's name appears in the "Most Wanted" section of the FBI website (under the Fugitives submenu along with 378 other criminals), on Wikipedia the "most wanted" moniker is usually reserved for the FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list. Since this is a BLP, we do have to err on the side of caution especially with unresolved criminal charges. PritongKandule-✉️📝 08:29, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Arrest

It should be time for some major edits as he gets arrested this week. time to debunk this whole divinity claim since it was an obvious scheme to get rich quick and get a lot of underage girls in his "divine" bedroom? Maybe we should dedicate a section to his psychological/psychiatric conditions such as "illusions of grandeur" and his claims to own the universe 2607:FA49:D33B:EF00:0:0:0:6280 (talk) 15:57, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

The Senate hearings has definitely put him in the limelight and it is expected that more sources will be available covering him. Although we should keep in mind that Wikipedia is not a place to WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS, we are not here to play armchair psychologists (that would be original research) or do an expose on him ourselves (although we can only repeat what published reliable sources already has mentioned). Although information about his supposed divinity claims and how he fits in the theology of his church would be helpful.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 10:40, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Edit request

OLD: "When Apollo was 14, he would start experiencing spiritual visions."
NEW: "Apollo claimed that when he was 14, he started experiencing spiritual visions."

Flatly claiming he started experiencing spiritual visions, in Wikipedia voice, is improper synth of sources. It is a claim, it isn't proven. The source proves he made this claim, it doesn't prove he actually had the visions, so to remain factual, we have to qualify the statement. 14.1.65.227 (talk) 11:27, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

 Already done ⸺(Random)staplers 17:48, 26 August 2024 (UTC)