Talk:April 2011 Miyagi earthquake
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Quake
editAs this earthquake is an aftershock of the March 11 earthquake I don't think it should have a page on it's own, especially since that, even if it's the stronger aftershock until now, it's not the only M>7 aftershock of this earthquake. Luinil (talk) 02:38, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- You might well be right. I don't know much about quakes. It might end up as a redirect to the main quake. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:48, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- The 2011 Miaygi earthquake is the 11 March quake. That quake occurred off Miyagi. Some news sources even called it the Miaygi quake, this article is therefore badly named. 65.93.12.101 (talk) 06:34, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- April 2011 Tōhoku earthquake has already been merged and redirected to the main article. 65.93.12.101 (talk) 06:39, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- I agree, this should be a redirect for now at least. We could reconsider if its coverage gets so extensive it would have undue weight there. --Avenue (talk) 10:01, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- Of course. I'm sorry I stubbed it in the first place. I didn't know. I hate to see all this fuss and wasted keystrokes. Can't we just dump it there now using Template:Copied? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:13, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- Say the word and I'll just do it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:15, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- We now also have 2011 April Tōhoku earthquake, which needs redirecting as well - I'll fix that one. Mikenorton (talk) 10:50, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- I'm just starting a work cycle and haven't a second to spare. So please feel free to Template:Copied it to the main article, or wait until after the weekend, and I'll do it. Cheers Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:37, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- Also, I don't know whether it goes in List of foreshocks and aftershocks of the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami or the main article or both. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:40, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Should we move this whole thread to the discussion area below? After all, it's about the exact same thing. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:47, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Personally, I think this quake was significant enough to stand on its own, aftershock or not. I'm not too familiar with the consensus for quake articles, but I've expanded the article and I think it's pretty solid now. Besides, the quake got much more media attention than the other aftershocks, and had a much larger impact and degree of concern. I agree that the current article title is not the best choice, however.★ Auree (talk) 00:54, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Whatever gets decided regarding merge/name, will likely also apply to 2011 Fukushima earthquake, another aftershock stub. I made it only because there needs to be some place to put the information about it until it is decided where it will go.
Once again, are there any objections to pasting this whole thread to the discussion area below? After all, these are two concurrent discussions about the same thing. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:54, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Requested move
edit- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: moved. The original title was changed to a redirect to 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami as well. (non-admin closure) Jenks24 (talk) 12:36, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
2011 Miyagi earthquake → April 2011 Miyagi earthquake — The 2011 Tōhoku earthquake has been referred to in some sources as the Miyagi quake, so this article is badly named, since it is not the most significant Miyagi quake of 2011. The current title should redirect to 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami. 65.93.12.101 (talk) 06:34, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
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- Support Just do it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:06, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- Support. Not controversial. Go ahead. --DAJF (talk) 13:30, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
- Support and Comment How about rename to 2011 Tohoku (or miyagi) after
quakeshock?--Altostratus (talk) 10:25, 9 April 2011 (UTC)- That wouldn't work, since it's an aftershock (afterquake? I haven't seen that term being used on this quake) and there's been hundreds of them, two larger than this one, many in the 6.x range. 65.93.12.101 (talk) 18:32, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- Support Good idea. ★ Auree (talk) 00:59, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose renaming to a title that doesn't link the quake directly to the Tohoku one. Something like 7 April aftershock of the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake. Truth be told, I think the content here should be merged to the List of foreshocks and aftershocks of the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami. All in all, there's not that much content here. Pichpich (talk) 23:54, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment it does link directly to it, since the current title should properly redirect to the Tohoku article as an alternate name that has been used in some sources for that quake. That quake occurred of Kesennuma, Miyagi, Tohoku, Japan. WP:PRECISION also has something to say about long titles. 65.93.12.101 (talk) 05:10, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Discussion
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Whatever gets decided regarding merge/name, will likely also apply to 2011 Fukushima earthquake, another aftershock stub. I made it only because there needs to be some place to put the information about it until it is decided where it will go.
Once again, are there any objections to pasting the whole thread above to this discussion area here? After all, these are two concurrent discussions about the same thing. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:54, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- That (2011 Fukushima) article was merged to the list of aftershocks. Still, regardless of if this article is merged or not, the current title should redirect to the main article (2011 Sendai/Tohoku) since this name is used for that quake as well. 65.93.12.101 (talk) 23:02, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
GA Review
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Reviewer: Nanobear (talk) 19:50, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
- The article is reasonably well-written, but there are a lot of things that could be improved, for example in the lead "No major damage was reported" -> "there was no major damage" (if true). Enough time should have passed to know if there was major damage or not. Also the prose should be changed to past form: "are confirmed dead" -> "were confirmed dead", etc (it's no longer a current event). "All warnings and alerts were canceled within 90 minutes, however" should probably be changed to something like "Within 90 minutes, all warnings were canceled, and no tsunami occurred" (if true; I think it's much more important whether a tsunami did arrive or not than the cancellation of warnings). I think the "earthquake" and "effects" chapters should be split into subchapters - there is currently too much diverse information in these chapters for a good flow. The subchapter addition should be combined with expansion, see below.
- a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It's a quite short article, I think too short for GA. Some suggestions for expansion: 1) more specific information about the damage, 2) where exactly and how the other 3 victims died, 3) where were the 5 coal plants located, 4) reactions by officials and scientists to the quake, etc.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- There is only one image (the map). I think we should at least have relevant photograph, for example of the damage done by the quake (although it can be difficult the separate the aftershock damage from the main quake damage).
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Currently the article does cover the main facts, but just doesn't seem to have enough information yet for a GA. It's easy think of material that could be added and should reasonably be in the article. The article also definitely needs a relevant photograph (I think it should be possible to get one).
- Pass/Fail:
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