Talk:Arab Colombians

This article is so wrong

Who the hell wrote this article because he/she/it doesn't know anything about the Arab community in Colombia. Majority of Colombians of Arab descent are not Muslim, they are Christians, just like the majority of Arab descendants in Latin America. This article sounds like original research. Someone fix it, please. Lehoiberri (talk) 06:36, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

There is no rule in Wikipedia that prohibits using images of Shakira.

There is no rule in Wikipedia that prohibits using images of Shakira. --181.137.12.115 (talk) 22:36, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

User:Iryna Harpy. Deleted images without a proper reason to do so. Vandalism. Without a rule prohibiting to use images of Shakira. --181.137.12.115 (talk) 21:52, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Let me clarify that I am going to defend my edits because I have the right to edit on Wikipedia because I am not vandalizing--181.137.12.115 (talk) 21:53, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Would you care to elaborate on why a huge image of Shakira is important to this article? How does Shakira inform the reader of who the "Arab diaspora in Colombia" are? WP:PERTINENCE please? --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:15, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

The correct question would be, why you hate Shakira?, she killed your father?. It is obvious that it is only an image that exemplifies the existence of Arabs in Colombia.--181.137.12.115 (talk) 22:22, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

@Iryna. Obviously, this IP simply likes Shakira and wants to include her image to show that certain people from Arab diaspora are highly popular. I do not think the image makes the page any worse. I suggest to compromise in all such cases to save your nerves and nerves of other people. This is more important. My very best wishes (talk) 22:37, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

@My very best wishes: This particular IP has been editing disruptively on articles other than this one, and has annoyed other editors by trying to turn articles into image repositories. Enhancing an article is one thing: sandwiching content in order to shove in as many images of people he/she thinks are important is another kettle of fish altogether. Calling me a vandal in edit summaries is also bad faith. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 06:02, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

@Iryna Harpy: First I have placed in the article only 2 photos of notable people, accepting my mistake as someone who understands that every human being can make a mistake but it can be remedied. And secondly I've made my edits in good faith because I just wanted to illustrate the wikipedia but with the intention of favouring the wikipedia community. And thirdly you are accusing me unfairly because you've mixed editions I've done in different articles and such editions are different unrelated. And the truth is that your based edition that the Shakira image should not appear in wikipedia articles simply because you don't like the Shakira image is unfair and inconsistent. --181.137.12.115 (talk) 15:33, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

I repeat, there is no rule in Wikipedia that prohibits using images of Shakira. --181.137.12.115 (talk) 16:07, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

@Iryna Harpy:You only want to win your war of Edition at the expense of the threats to me. It is sad that there are women who can not accept positive edits of others in Wikipedia.--181.137.12.115 (talk) 01:51, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Hmm. Does that mean that men make positive contributions by inserting photos of a single notable person to represent an entire diasporic community? Shakira does not represent the average member of the Arab diasporic community in Columbia: she is an exceptional person, like other notable people, who are the exceptions for any ethnic group... or the majority of the 7 billion people currently alive on this planet. This article is not about exceptional people: it's about a cultural/ethnic/linguistic group in the diaspora. You are not improving the content by thwacking a huge image of one notable person, detracting from the WP:TITLE and content of the article. It still looks like an article about Shakira (even having removed the extended biography from the caption). Per WP:PRECISION, it has nothing to do with the content around it. As it stands, you have a huge image of her in the White Colombians article which is highly questionable. These articles are not promotions for Shakira, no matter how much you adore her. That's your WP:PPOV, and you're entitled to have personal preferences, but Wikipedia is not a blog, and personal preferences are unencyclopaedic. What you are pushing is deleterious to the integrity of the subject, and actually serves as an affront to the multiple-thousands of ordinary people the article represents. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 02:54, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

@Iryna Harpy:It is obvious you are in an edit war, and therefore there are 2 users who think that the image does no damage to the article. While you're the only user focused on the Elimination of the Shakira image because you don't like the image. Therefore, I have the reason.--181.137.12.115 (talk) 03:10, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

@Iryna Harpy:I not added the Shakira image to another article. In addition the majority of Colombians of Arab origin are identified with Shakira and she is considered in Colombia as a representative of their community.--181.137.12.115 (talk) 03:15, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

@Iryna Harpy:The vast majority of the Colombian people with Arab ancestry love to the singer Shakira and the majority of Colombians also love the singer Shakira, so Shakira can perfectly represent the entire Colombian Arab community.--181.137.12.115 (talk) 03:22, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

@Iryna Harpy:Shakira is a symbol of the union and the respect that exists between the great Colombian Arab community and the rest of the ethnic groups that make up the Colombian people. Shakira constantly supports the union of these people with the work of his Foundation in Colombia and Shakira often has expressed how proud she felt of being Colombian, Arabic and Hispanic.--181.137.12.115 (talk) 03:27, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

@Iryna Harpy:Colombian singer Shakira has spoken of her pride in her Arabic heritage and her sadness at the way some people view the Middle East.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4406486.stm --181.137.12.115 (talk) 03:30, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

@Iryna Harpy:She's Latin America's hottest singer with fans around the world. But in her native Colombia Shakira is as well known for her work with the country's poorest children. http://www.theguardian.com/music/2009/nov/22/shakira-music-colombia-poverty.--181.137.12.115 (talk) 03:39, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

@Iryna Harpy:Proud: Shakira was thrilled to show off her son Milan's Colombian passport. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2567882/Shakiras-son-Milan-gets-Colombian-passport-takes-charity-trip-native-country-open-new-school.html--181.137.12.115 (talk) 03:37, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

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Wrong information

It says the Lebanese diaspora in Colombia numbers in 3.2 million. This is wrong - going to the source, it explicitly says (in Spanish) that those with Middle Eastern descent in Colombia numbers in 3.2 million. The Lebanese portion is 700,000. Jdnn81 (talk) 13:59, 28 February 2023 (UTC)