Talk:Archie, Marry Me/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 15:14, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Infobox

• No source backing up the Digital download or CD Single (the promo for radios is not available for comercial release)
• Genre: Indie pop → Not backed up by any sources
• Not listed as a songwriter on credits and personnel: Alec O'Hanley

 Done

Lead

• The song was written → It was written
• Molly Rankin with guitarist Alec O'Hanley → Molly Rankin with guitarist Alec O'Hanley as a critique of the standard societal expectation that one is to marry upon entering adulthood.
• The two wrote the track as a critique of the standard societal expectation that one is to marry upon entering adulthood. → remove this sentence
• In the band's home country, it was later released on Royal Mountain Records → what do you mean?
• band's breakthrough hit → see below

 Done

Background

• gained bassist Brian Murphy → not very enciclopedic
• Public Strain → release date between brackets
• The album was mastered by Greg Calbi and Steve Fallone at Sterling Sound. → source?

 Done

Composition

• genres indie rock, twee pop, noise pop, dream pop, guitar pop, and surf rock. → none of them in the infobox, why?
• Halifax[disambiguation needed] → fix
• where she waitressed → and waitressed

 Done

Music video

• The image caption says the video was filmed in 2015, but the video was released in 2014.
• Adult Diversion", which was filmed utilizing a Super 8 film camera → remove, this is an article regarding "Archie, Marry Me"
• The group shot the final clip themselves again using a Super 8. → The group shot the final clip themselves using a Super 8, like in their video for "Adult Diversion" (2013)
• Halfway through filming, the band heard a noise inside the camera, which damaged its battery. A quick Google search revealed to neutralize the battery fluid by using vinegar, which the band did and were able to resume filming. → "Halfway through filming, the camera has its battery damaged. They neutralize the battery fluid using vinegar and resume filming." it has too much detail

 Done

Release

• Alvvays initially self-released "Archie, Marry Me"; an early demo of the song was → "Archie, Marry Me" was initially self-released as an early demo. The song was
• as did second single "Adult Diversion" → as did their second single "Adult Diversion" (2013) + remove wikilink
• In the United States and Europe, the single → which single?
• Polyvinyl began promoting the single → same as previous
• ater that year, they issued it as a 7" single, with "Adult Diverson" as its B-side, exclusively to mail-order subscribers. Both the aforementioned companies distributed promo CDs with those tracks in their countries, aiming for airplay on college radio stations → missing a source
• and was considered the band's breakthrough hit → not on given source

 Done

Reception

• He musically considered → He considered
• Ilana Kaplan at Spin → Spin's Ilana Kaplan
• Miles Bowe at Stereogum → Miles Bowe from Stereogum
• Katzif at NPR → Katzif of NPR
• Wrong preposition on the fixes above
• classic indie hit → "indie-pop classic" (stick to the sources)

 Done

Personnel

• Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between credits and personnel.
• Two collumns

 Done

References

• NPR → publisher
• You either wikilink every work or publisher, or only once in their first instance. I prefer the latter option.
• Wikilink Pitchfork, Consequence of Sound, Drowned in Sound, NPR, Billboard, NME, Stereogum and Chicago Tribune
• Don't SHOUT in references
• Reference 26 → Missing or empty |url=
• Reference 16 is in copyright violation.

External links

• Fine

Overall

• You can now address the issues. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 17:22, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

@Saginaw-hitchhiker: I have seen almost everything, please see below two issues I left. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:58, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Re: GA

Hello. I've adjusted according to the majority of your suggestions. Some thoughts:

• No real reason to delete the sentence "The two wrote the track as a critique of the standard societal expectation that one is to marry upon entering adulthood." It hints at further explanation later in the article and is something I find worthy of making the lead.

It was remove because I added it to the first paragraph, it made more sense. Not delete altogether. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:26, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• Re: Royal Mountain Records – distribution of the track was split between various indie labels in several countries. In the lead, I think it's important to state first and foremost the band's label in their native Canada

I re-wrote it. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:26, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• I chose not to clutter the infobox with the dozens of genres critics applied to the music. Indie pop/dream pop appeared most universal and commonly used. Still, if this is something you're interested in amending, I can do so

Maybe a note below indicating other genres on the text. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:35, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

• The image mentioning 2015 is in reference to the year the photo was taken -- suppose this could be more clear

Made it more clear. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:37, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done

• The source calling it the quartet's "breakthrough hit" is phrased as "breakout track"

 Done

Thank. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

• Don't see the reference issues you're describing. Reference 16 is Rolling Stone and Reference 30 was using a website registered on Wikipedia's blacklist. I've requested that the specific page be allowed, without unblocking the whole website, on the spam whitelist talk page.

Thanks!

Regarding the last issue what I said about Rolling Stone was that ""Just two kids without any direction, doing it on a whim in a courthouse, saying 'Who cares?' to everyone else who has all of their ducks in a row before settling down. It was the most romantic thing I could think of at the time" and "surrounded by six feet of snow," she says. "We had a snowmobile to get to the road, but we ended up burying the snowmobile. I guess we were inspired by it being so bleak." need to be pharaphrased as Earwig's tool strikes them as copyright violation. See here 1. Show me the page of such request. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:13, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done

@Saginaw-hitchhiker: As of right now, we just need to get to an agreement point on the genres. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:34, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@Saginaw-hitchhiker: Are you still up for this?

@Yoninah: I have seen you seem quite interested in the article, I was wondering if you could help with the issue that still puts this GA on hold? It is regarding the genres, you can see above the nominator didn't want to clutter the infobox with 7 diferent genres, and I was trying to come up with the solution, but in the meantime he didn't came back to the article. Many thanks, MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 22:13, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

• @MarioSoulTruthFan: actually, I was just editing the article to prepare for its main page appearance at WP:DYK. I am not interested in the subject and also found that the nominators did not respond promptly to requests at DYK. Yoninah (talk) 22:17, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

@Valereee:I was wondering if you could help with the issue that still puts this GA on hold? It is regarding the genres, you can see above the nominator didn't want to clutter the infobox with 7 diferent genres, and I was trying to come up with the solution, but in the meantime he didn't came back to the article. Best regards, MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 18:51, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Something like that? (NOTE: I'm not involved in either the nomination or the reviewing process). --Urbanoc (talk) 20:10, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Urbanoc:Thank you for the quick response. I made a small change, what do you think? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:42, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

In my opinion, looks better with your change. --Urbanoc (talk) 20:46, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Guys, sorry about the delay. I think the aforementioned change looks fine; I just thought "indie pop" seemed the most accurate. I've edited it to what I think seems the most reasonable. Thanks. Saginaw-hitchhiker (talk) 03:02, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Saginaw-hitchhiker: I added indie rock according to the Consequence of Sound tag. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 15:39, 23 May 2020 (UTC)